There was a group that would shepherd you through levels - any levels - of Halo 3... for a price. I guess that's a 'guaranteed' result... but I'd imagine that anyone willing to pay for that service would be willing to gamble that 3 nightfall drops would give them better odds on something good than one.

::shrug:: Maybe I'm wrong.

Well, and that's something I've admitted, that it WOULD happen, but the implication people are implying is that it would be a reason to NOT introduce end of round trading because it would cause an issue. I personally think the amount of people that would be willing to pay for it (especially when you can probably find people that would be willing to trade at the end of rounds on LFG sites for free) would be very, very small.

A simple solution would be to allow fire teams to trade drops at the end of rounds. so before you go back to orbit you have the chance to trade these drops.

L@@K - Your choice of 3 nightfall drops - $5 per run. Msg 360yoloSWAGboi or StudMuffin on XBL.

This makes very little sense to me. The person who agreed to this would have to be desperate. "Hey, pay $5 for 2 extra chances at exotics!" I'm not saying it wouldn't happen, but I think most people aren't THAT desperate.

Where were you during Halo 3?

Are you talking about people paying to have their rank leveled up? That's another example of a result that could be guaranteed. Nightfalls you can't promise even that they'll get an exotic.

There was a group that would shepherd you through levels - any levels - of Halo 3... for a price. I guess that's a 'guaranteed' result... but I'd imagine that anyone willing to pay for that service would be willing to gamble that 3 nightfall drops would give them better odds on something good than one.

::shrug:: Maybe I'm wrong.

CC

A simple solution would be to allow fire teams to trade drops at the end of rounds. so before you go back to orbit you have the chance to trade these drops.

L@@K - Your choice of 3 nightfall drops - $5 per run. Msg 360yoloSWAGboi or StudMuffin on XBL.

This makes very little sense to me. The person who agreed to this would have to be desperate. "Hey, pay $5 for 2 extra chances at exotics!" I'm not saying it wouldn't happen, but I think most people aren't THAT desperate.

Where were you during Halo 3?

Are you talking about people paying to have their rank leveled up? That's another example of a result that could be guaranteed. Nightfalls you can't promise even that they'll get an exotic.

A simple solution would be to allow fire teams to trade drops at the end of rounds. so before you go back to orbit you have the chance to trade these drops.

L@@K - Your choice of 3 nightfall drops - $5 per run. Msg 360yoloSWAGboi or StudMuffin on XBL.

This makes very little sense to me. The person who agreed to this would have to be desperate. "Hey, pay $5 for 2 extra chances at exotics!" I'm not saying it wouldn't happen, but I think most people aren't THAT desperate.

Where were you during Halo 3?

First off, I can barely carry myself. Second, what am I going to do with your useless american money? $20 is worth like a pint and a packet of crisps.

But more importantly - I'm not even particularly good and people are asking ME (not the other way around) to get them game items for money. If you add in trading, it's gonna get much worse.

That actually is the scenario we're discussing - the theoretical trading here would be free, as far as the player-Bungie relationship goes. The discussion is about the players themselves charging other players to ride along on high-level activity for an extra chance at drops.

This has a simple solution, only allow trading (or receiving a gift or whatever) if it's your first time through said activity that week. Problem solved.

What I am questioning is why those players would choose to do that rather than ride along with a group that isn't charging. Some idiot somewhere would, but I have a hard time believing it would be more than a very tiny percentage of the population. Someone who can run into such an offer accidentally could just as easily run into groups who aren't charging.

I work on an AAA game that has a player trading and currency system, and deals with this kind of problem. They showed us some numbers in a team-meeting the other week for what amount of in-game currency was earned legitimately vs. what was farmed and sold through third-parties. It wasn't pretty, and there's no easy solution available that doesn't impact legitimate players.

Your game sucks if people would rather pay to get something they could otherwise get by playing. Make a better game. Simple as that. Problem solved. :-D

Unfortunately, I'm not anywhere near a position to make those calls. I just do UI implementation.

We're in the age of Microtransactions, where people pay $1 for three extra hearts in a puzzle game. $5 for a decent chance at an exotic in Destiny is an appealing prospect to many people.

You know what's even MORE appealing to those people? Not having to pay at all and just being able to trade for it with your fireteam!

What a wonderful world! Susnshine! Rainbows! No bad people on the internet! The end of taxes! Pokémon for all!

Hah. This isn't some bullshit John Lennon 'Imagine' scenario: it could actually happen easily.

We're in the age of Microtransactions, where people pay $1 for three extra hearts in a puzzle game. $5 for a decent chance at an exotic in Destiny is an appealing prospect to many people.

You know what's even MORE appealing to those people? Not having to pay at all and just being able to trade for it with your fireteam!

What a wonderful world! Susnshine! Rainbows! No bad people on the internet! The end of taxes! Pokémon for all!

I work on an AAA game that has a player trading and currency system, and deals with this kind of problem. They showed us some numbers in a team-meeting the other week for what amount of in-game currency was earned legitimately vs. what was farmed and sold through third-parties. It wasn't pretty, and there's no easy solution available that doesn't impact legitimate players.

Your game sucks if people would rather pay to get something they could otherwise get by playing. Make a better game. Simple as that. Problem solved. :-D

We're in the age of Microtransactions, where people pay $1 for three extra hearts in a puzzle game. $5 for a decent chance at an exotic in Destiny is an appealing prospect to many people.

You know what's even MORE appealing to those people? Not having to pay at all and just being able to trade for it with your fireteam!

Would you gift someone in an LFG your Gjallarhorn drop in exchange for their Sawtooth Oscillator if they asked for it? Would you happily cast your 4th Horseman or Hawkmoon aside for a Legendary engram?

We're in the age of Microtransactions, where people pay $1 for three extra hearts in a puzzle game. $5 for a decent chance at an exotic in Destiny is an appealing prospect to many people.

People would almost definitely include things in their LFG posts if they are willing to. "Willing to trade for item I don't have." People are surprisingly friendly on LFG a large percentage of the time.

Yeah, I mean... why wouldn't they just join an LFG group instead?

Would you gift someone in an LFG your Gjallarhorn drop in exchange for their Sawtooth Oscillator if they asked for it? Would you happily cast your 4th Horseman or Hawkmoon aside for a Legendary engram?

We're in the age of Microtransactions, where people pay $1 for three extra hearts in a puzzle game. $5 for a decent chance at an exotic in Destiny is an appealing prospect to many people.