... but trying to predict the future of Destiny, or any vendor via data mining has been given way too much weight and too much 'truth' for an aspect of the game that's never been official. Not only do these data mines assume the game won't be patched ever again, they also ignore the fact that Bungie's standard style of deploying content updates is to ALWAYS have a fallback that the autopilot will put up, just in case something goes awry/someone can't work that week.

Reach worked the same way. They had a prebaked collection of Weekly and Daily challenges that would deploy. Sometimes when the timing of a playlist update or event lined up really well, they'd hotswap one challenge for another. When 343 took over and updated the Pistol, they changed the weekly to be Pistol-centric. They even accidentally deployed two weeklies at once... if you had datamined Reach's challenges 5 months before, you wouldn't have seen those coming. Heck, 343 even manually replaced "Link up to Bungie.net" with another daily while they were actively updating the game. It was easier to do that than mess with the pool selector, which could be more dangerous code-wise.

Same with Halo 3 and Reach playlists. Did you know every playlist ever is downloaded to your Xbox at once? And that they turn off and on by themselves? Datamining those would have shown no updates to Team SWAT, wouldn't have told you about Heavies, and gave no indication of Action Sack - they would have just told you Arena was resetting every 3 months. Heck, there were playlists in the playlist data that never even became public. Because the data deployed on the live stack is a little bit planned but a lot of it fallback - you always plan for the worst case scenario.

Dunno. The constant "but but the datamines!" has been annoying me for quite a while. It completely ignores how these types of games are run.

For those who play with my kids... James and Miriam are away at camp this weekend and will be absent for Xur. Before they left, they both - independent of one another - asked me to get on to their characters and purchase the weapon if it was Gjallarhorn. I think I'll tell them that I tried, but he was sold out.

Might have to give Isaac some strange coins to keep the secret...

It's been so long now and reddit's search function is so awful I can't find an example. I'm also sporadically busy and can't devote too much time to finding this crap today. But it's not from a publishing of loot tables, but an inference from large amounts of testing from nutjobs that have shown at least minor proof they know what they're talking about.

I don't think MegamanEXE ever claimed he had access to Xur's entire loot table, just that he could see what regular Xur would be selling on each weekend up to a certain point (that point being when HoW launched, IIRC).

Yeah I even found the post people are referencing to claim that it was removed: https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2wi7fq/misc_about_xur_sale_list_iron_banner_sale_list/

But all he ACTUALLY says is that Gjallahorn is not scheduled to be sold.

I know. That was special Xur. The data miners could not find that gun in the normal one's loot table. Also note where you can get Thorn in the armory. Doesn't always apply in real life.

Can you give a source for this? Even megaman on Reddit said Gjallahorn was in the normal Xur's loot table the last I checked. The only thing I've seen stating it was removed was from a supposed Bungie employee which I seriously doubt was actually a Bungie employee.

Xur SOLD Gjallarhorn in September. (Last year.) It's definitely in the tables - or was.

I know. That was special Xur. The data miners could not find that gun in the normal one's loot table. Also note where you can get Thorn in the armory. Doesn't always apply in real life.

Can you give a source for this? Even megaman on Reddit said Gjallahorn was in the normal Xur's loot table the last I checked. The only thing I've seen stating it was removed was from a supposed Bungie employee which I seriously doubt was actually a Bungie employee.