I mainly PvP and hawkmoon seems to be at the top of everyone's list.

Also, yes Monte Carlo is beautiful and is really the only gun I want

Yeah, there certainly was a time when Hawkmoon was THE gun for PvP, but that really isn't the case anymore. It's still great, but I think most would agree that Thorn outclasses it at the moment. Last Word can also be better at certain ranges, thanks to its insanely high rate of fire. I've been using Pulse Rifles lately, and doing better than I've ever done with Hawkmoon. The Messanger, Red Death, Bad Juju, Three Little Words, Spare Change.25... these and several others can go toe to toe with Hawkmoon in many situations :)

Also, yes Monte Carlo is beautiful and is really the only gun I want

I just don't like the way they are pretty much the best guns in game and players who have them all but rely on them for everything

I wouldn't go that far...

Hawkmoon is one of the top hand cannons for PvP, but it is outclassed by plenty of weapons for PvE. Monte Carlo is beautiful and fun to use, but we all know the troubles Auto Rifles face with the current balance levels. And Fourth Horesman is very cool in specific situations, but I rarely see anyone using it over the more versatile exotics.

I like having many good guns for many situations.

Plus I don't use hand cannons or shotguns all that much :D

I'm also dreading when those PS exclusive strikes, maps and guns coming to Xbox. I really don't like them ._.

Yeah the strikes are underwhelming, but remember we are going to get reworked versions of them! (I'm hoping those are the ones that get put in the Weekly rotations). I'm surprised you don't like the guns though! Both Hawkmoon and 4th Horseman are awesome!

kinda sucks I can't preorder though :/
I just don't want to miss out some sweet exclusive gains

I'm also dreading when those PS exclusive strikes, maps and guns coming to Xbox. I really don't like them ._.

But if I get hawkmoon on Xbox before Cody on PS I'll die laughing.

So, while it sucks, I can totally understand why it was done the way it was done.

All that said, plenty could have been done to stop mass redemption of codes. A redemption limit of even 1 per day or so would have gone a long way.

At the end of the day, I do feel bad for exploiting the system because I more than likely robbed someone else of their codes, and that is super no bueno, so I can't blame Bungie or Red Bull for this one. All me." -source

Do we have any sources for this 360 business?

Sure, go to xbox.com and search for The Taken King. It will be available for purchase on the XB1 but not the 360. If you go to Playstation's store it's available for PS3 and PS4 (though you have to be logged in with an account that owns Destiny and the first two expansions to see the pre-order option).

What does this mean for me buying TTK,I run 360

You just have to wait for it, worst case scenario you have to buy it ON 9/15/2015

Will I still get the exclusive year 1 content? Yes I meet the criteria, but if I am purchasing TTK later than any other console?

Doesn't matter, you just have to buy The Taken King before February of next year:

"*To be eligible to receive the VIP rewards, players will need to have at least one Light Level 30 character or own both Expansion I and Expansion II on or before 08/31/15 AND purchase and play The Taken King on or before 02/01/16."

What does this mean for me buying TTK,I run 360

Will I still get the exclusive year 1 content? Yes I meet the criteria, but if I am purchasing TTK later than any other console?

Any console other than 360?? What do you mean?

360 does not have the digital purchase available (this is pretty common on 360, especially for DLC) in the Xbox store. The other three consoles do. 360 will have it available closer to release.

Also the digital upgrade for $20 was something to do with players kicking off about having to repurchase the whole game again ? Maybe that's TTK for $40 and collectors edition for $20?

You guessed it, TTK alone for $40, $20 for the stuff from the digital collector's edition without having to rebuy the actual game and previous expansions.

Also the digital upgrade for $20 was something to do with players kicking off about having to repurchase the whole game again ? Maybe that's TTK for $40 and collectors edition for $20?

Just out of curiosity, I'd be interested in hearing anyone's ideas on how you'd run this kind of buy in stores unlock digital items promotion without it being hackable. Even super complex codes have to follow some sort of pattern...

Most companies use longer codes, for every digit you add you increase the amount of possible codes by a significant margin and the number of valid codes is actually a small percentage the possible codes making it less likely that someone can guess a code.

How do I actually purchase TTK?

Seems sites have it up for the US for $20 for the digital upgrade (for sweet gains) but when ever I ask in game they say they have no price and will have it on release in September. (I'm UK BTW)

Can I buy it for $20 off US site and still DL the digital upgrade (with sweet gains) in UK?

Are you talking about the actual expansion? If you have any console but 360 you can buy it from the respective digital stores for $40 (not $20 anywhere). You can't buy it anywhere else digitally (well except on Amazon since they made a deal with Sony to sell digital purchases).