I havent seen any of the shotguns.

And Yea we played together during those trials! I remember you using it.

I have the shotgun (Astral Horizon). Has great range and better fire rate than Felwinter's, but the perks aren't the best: Replenish ammo on Super, Army of one, and Flared Magwell (5 rounds in a mag). I'd rather have Range Finder, but for what it's worth, the base stats are solid.

I'm not much of a shotgun user in PvP, but I've been meaning to try it out. Do you think rangefinder, or shot package is the better perk? I was leaning toward shot package since you could get something like reenforced barrel to get more range.

Personally, I prefer Range Finder. Shot Package has a higher chance of missing (especially at range), whereas RF retains a solid kill cone at range (and I always ADS anyway). Reinforced barrel is great, especially since the tradeoffs are manageable (stability and ammo, right?), so it's up to you.

Reinforced barrel is just losing stability.

I havent seen any of the shotguns.

And Yea we played together during those trials! I remember you using it.

I have the shotgun (Astral Horizon). Has great range and better fire rate than Felwinter's, but the perks aren't the best: Replenish ammo on Super, Army of one, and Flared Magwell (5 rounds in a mag). I'd rather have Range Finder, but for what it's worth, the base stats are solid.

I'm not much of a shotgun user in PvP, but I've been meaning to try it out. Do you think rangefinder, or shot package is the better perk? I was leaning toward shot package since you could get something like reenforced barrel to get more range.

Personally, I prefer Range Finder. Shot Package has a higher chance of missing (especially at range), whereas RF retains a solid kill cone at range (and I always ADS anyway). Reinforced barrel is great, especially since the tradeoffs are manageable (stability and ammo, right?), so it's up to you.

I recently had the fortune of acquiring another "secret handshake" with Hammer forged and Rangefinder. I still have (and recently ascended) the old vendor version with Hammer forged and Shot package.

I've been toying around with them in PvE scenarios, and it feels like Shot-package is the way to go there- assuming your aim is true, you're able to land more projectiles to crit spots, and the range boost provided by rangefinder doesn't make up for the damage lost to the projectiles that miss at those longer ranges. I'll probably hang on to it for dealing with Cabal, though.

I havent seen any of the shotguns.

And Yea we played together during those trials! I remember you using it.

I have the shotgun (Astral Horizon). Has great range and better fire rate than Felwinter's, but the perks aren't the best: Replenish ammo on Super, Army of one, and Flared Magwell (5 rounds in a mag). I'd rather have Range Finder, but for what it's worth, the base stats are solid.

I'm not much of a shotgun user in PvP, but I've been meaning to try it out. Do you think rangefinder, or shot package is the better perk? I was leaning toward shot package since you could get something like reenforced barrel to get more range.

Personally, I prefer Range Finder. Shot Package has a higher chance of missing (especially at range), whereas RF retains a solid kill cone at range (and I always ADS anyway). Reinforced barrel is great, especially since the tradeoffs are manageable (stability and ammo, right?), so it's up to you.

hahaha. I had a few good rounds. Everyone needs to try it. its so easy. The quick charge scope also kills at the same rate as the long range. 1 to the head two anywhere else. The only different is probably the long range will kill a revived player with shield in one shot. the other will not. Still need to test to verify.

Isn't the long range a 1-shot kill to the body as well? I was getting loads of 1-shot kills in standard crucible with it.

No. Both scopes are one headshot kills, or two body shot kills (for full strength opponents).

I havent seen any of the shotguns.

And Yea we played together during those trials! I remember you using it.

I have the shotgun (Astral Horizon). Has great range and better fire rate than Felwinter's, but the perks aren't the best: Replenish ammo on Super, Army of one, and Flared Magwell (5 rounds in a mag). I'd rather have Range Finder, but for what it's worth, the base stats are solid.

I'm not much of a shotgun user in PvP, but I've been meaning to try it out. Do you think rangefinder, or shot package is the better perk? I was leaning toward shot package since you could get something like reenforced barrel to get more range.

I havent seen any of the shotguns.

And Yea we played together during those trials! I remember you using it.

I have the shotgun (Astral Horizon). Has great range and better fire rate than Felwinter's, but the perks aren't the best: Replenish ammo on Super, Army of one, and Flared Magwell (5 rounds in a mag). I'd rather have Range Finder, but for what it's worth, the base stats are solid.

And Yea we played together during those trials! I remember you using it.

hahaha. I had a few good rounds. Everyone needs to try it. its so easy. The quick charge scope also kills at the same rate as the long range. 1 to the head two anywhere else. The only different is probably the long range will kill a revived player with shield in one shot. the other will not. Still need to test to verify.

Isn't the long range a 1-shot kill to the body as well? I was getting loads of 1-shot kills in standard crucible with it.

What do you guys think of the Trials weapons?

I'm enjoying them quite a but. They aren't earth-shatteringly good, but overall they're a nice solid batch of hard-hitting guns. I used my Scholar on 2 flawless runs a few weeks ago (the extra range was great for Widow's Court.).
That being said, I'm only really chasing the adept versions. There's no such thing as too many elemental primaries :) I've got a void scholar, Solar Jewel, and Solar Summoner.

Also got a Solar Jewel. It's okay I guess?

EDIT:

Eye of Sol is kind of a let down due to not having the ambush sight.

It has the Longview 10 though, which is only 0.5x greater zoom than the Shortgaze and Ambush, with a buttload of aim assist (30 I believe). My absolute favourite scope, though I'm a mainly PvE sniper. I like my shotgun sprees too much to snipe in PvP.