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So a Sunsinger can survive it? (reply)

Earendil — Wed, 03 Jun 2015 03:07:00 +0000

Or does it apply as some sort of "pure" damage that bypasses armor and "damage reduction" abilities like the sunsingers?

Like I said, I've survived many a trip mine, but never a shoulder charge.

Shoulder Charge = 200 damage (reply)

ChrisTheeCrappy — Wed, 03 Jun 2015 02:56:00 +0000

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Ah, yes! (reply)

Earendil — Wed, 03 Jun 2015 02:45:18 +0000

For what it's worth, I think a shoulder charge does slightly more than a trip mine. One reason I run PvP with maxed armor is because I can survive a trip mine from an equally leveled player (pixels to spare). I've never survived a shoulder charge though.

2 levels difference isn't much (reply)

Speedracer513 — Wed, 03 Jun 2015 02:30:20 +0000

That only thing that matters is abilities that do the exact amount of damage needed to kill. But that has always been true, so I will stop talking now.

What's an example of that? The different special melees? Don't most supers kill guardians in one go, even if they are stronger?

Shoulder charge does exactly enough damage to kill someone, also I believe trip mine. So when a level 33 hits a level 34, it brings them within ~~an inch~~ a pixel of their life.

FTFY

Update on Iron Banner/ToO Damage curve scaling (reply)

ChrisTheeCrappy — Wed, 03 Jun 2015 01:18:38 +0000

So they are both using the HoW chart. Nice to see they are the same.

2 levels difference isn't much (reply)

MacAddictXIV — Wed, 03 Jun 2015 01:15:59 +0000

That only thing that matters is abilities that do the exact amount of damage needed to kill. But that has always been true, so I will stop talking now.

What's an example of that? The different special melees? Don't most supers kill guardians in one go, even if they are stronger?

Shoulder charge does exactly enough damage to kill someone, also I believe trip mine. So when a level 33 hits a level 34, it brings them within an inch of their life.

Update on Iron Banner/ToO Damage curve scaling (reply)

CyberKN — Wed, 03 Jun 2015 01:05:21 +0000

2 levels difference isn't much (reply)

Earendil — Wed, 03 Jun 2015 00:55:11 +0000

That only thing that matters is abilities that do the exact amount of damage needed to kill. But that has always been true, so I will stop talking now.

What's an example of that? The different special melees? Don't most supers kill guardians in one go, even if they are stronger?

2 levels difference isn't much (reply)

MacAddictXIV — Wed, 03 Jun 2015 00:21:31 +0000

at 2%, most of the time you won't even need an extra bullet, and the more impact a weapon has the lower the effect of the reduction. A red hand will still be doing 87 dmg a shot, and with a goal of about 200 dmg, you are going to need 3 shots, same as if you were the same level.

It would take a 42% reduction to require an extra head shot, and a 30% reduction to require an additional body shot.

So if you are lower level, switch to high impact weapons and you minimize the IB scaling effect.

That only thing that matters is abilities that do the exact amount of damage needed to kill. But that has always been true, so I will stop talking now.

2 levels difference isn't much (reply)

Durandal — Wed, 03 Jun 2015 00:12:43 +0000

at 2%, most of the time you won't even need an extra bullet, and the more impact a weapon has the lower the effect of the reduction. A red hand will still be doing 87 dmg a shot, and with a goal of about 200 dmg, you are going to need 3 shots, same as if you were the same level.

It would take a 42% reduction to require an extra head shot, and a 30% reduction to require an additional body shot.

So if you are lower level, switch to high impact weapons and you minimize the IB scaling effect.

Update on Iron Banner/ToO Damage curve scaling (reply)

ChrisTheeCrappy — Wed, 03 Jun 2015 00:09:57 +0000

that's some good stuff. wish they did that BEFORE. did he say if Iron Banner is using the new curve or it's own?

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CyberKN — Tue, 02 Jun 2015 23:47:05 +0000

Derek Carroll just posted this on twitter:

HoW Damage Curve Update: Damage scales linearly @ 1%/level for 4 levels, then curves to 10% at a delta of 10 levels.

What this means in practice, based off of my eyeballing the charts:

-33s will take a little bit more extra damage from 34s - 1% instead of ~0.5%. Inverse is also true.

-32s will take and deal about the same amount of damage when fighting 34s as before

-31s will take a little bit less extra damage from 34s - 3% instead of ~5%. Inverse is also true.

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So a Sunsinger can survive it? (reply)

Shoulder Charge = 200 damage (reply)

Ah, yes! (reply)

2 levels difference isn't much (reply)

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2 levels difference isn't much (reply)

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