I know! Think of the horror of a world in which everybody has a collection of guns that is different from everyone else's because it was created by tough personal choices the game forced them to make, instead of everyone just playing Pokemon and collecting them all?

I'm not sure you understand my point.

I cannot make "tough personal choices" because I have no idea what challenges lie ahead in the future expansions,

Yes, you can. You're saying you won't because you cannot min-max it in advance.

That is what MAKES it a tough choice. It is about your personal preference.

Frankly I'm more interested in choosing a selection of weapons that fits the kind of player I am and the kind of Guardian my characters are, rather than what's "best" because "best" in your terms boils down to DPS which boils down to collecting the most mcguffins in the least time, which I generally don't care about.

But hey, at least one of us is having fun, right?

And what of experimentation? Do you want to throw out a good weapon just to experiment with one you think you might like? If guns weren't acquired randomly, none of this would be a problem at all.

It's not rocket surgery.

Nope! It's Brain Science!

I know! Think of the horror of a world in which everybody has a collection of guns that is different from everyone else's because it was created by tough personal choices the game forced them to make, instead of everyone just playing Pokemon and collecting them all?

I'm not sure you understand my point.

I cannot make "tough personal choices" because I have no idea what challenges lie ahead in the future expansions,

Yes, you can. You're saying you won't because you cannot min-max it in advance.

That is what MAKES it a tough choice. It is about your personal preference.

Frankly I'm more interested in choosing a selection of weapons that fits the kind of player I am and the kind of Guardian my characters are, rather than what's "best" because "best" in your terms boils down to DPS which boils down to collecting the most mcguffins in the least time, which I generally don't care about.

But hey, at least one of us is having fun, right?

I didn't keep a single shotgun up to the buff. Yes, even Invective. Now I have my two favorite shotguns already set.

First attacks on auto rifles, and now things are getting racially charged.

:P

I know! Think of the horror of a world in which everybody has a collection of guns that is different from everyone else's because it was created by tough personal choices the game forced them to make, instead of everyone just playing Pokemon and collecting them all?

I'm not sure you understand my point.

I cannot make "tough personal choices" because I have no idea what challenges lie ahead in the future expansions, and thus don't know which guns will be good or fun to use. Likewise, I do not know what Bungie will decide to do with the weapon balance, so I don't know what will be good in the future.

Having no information, I can't make long term choices. Thus, keeping a lot of stuff.

Vault space is going to be a huge issue.

We are getting a ton more exotic and legendary weapons with HoW. Our old ones will be useful due to ascending. There already isn't enough vault space to hold the exotics (and I do not keep duplicates). Either I will have to throw out some weapons I like, or else just not use any new stuff.

I know! Think of the horror of a world in which everybody has a collection of guns that is different from everyone else's because it was created by tough personal choices the game forced them to make, instead of everyone just playing Pokemon and collecting them all?

Horror indeed!

I did ponder whether Abyss Defiant has a place on the Omnigul Strike… maybe I should try it out.

The Wizard disruption perk is pretty cool. You suddenly stop getting pestered by them. I'm not entirely sure, but I think even Omnigul is affected by it, so maybe Ir Yut is too.

Yeah that's what i mean. The strike would be way easier if the Wizards weren't nailing you.

It works on them, but it's a random chance... maybe 5%. Sometimes I'll unload a whole clip and no confused Omnigul:(

All the time. Forever.

STOP LOOKING AT ME.

I did ponder whether Abyss Defiant has a place on the Omnigul Strike… maybe I should try it out.

The Wizard disruption perk is pretty cool. You suddenly stop getting pestered by them. I'm not entirely sure, but I think even Omnigul is affected by it, so maybe Ir Yut is too.

Yeah that's what i mean. The strike would be way easier if the Wizards weren't nailing you.

I did ponder whether Abyss Defiant has a place on the Omnigul Strike… maybe I should try it out.

The Wizard disruption perk is pretty cool. You suddenly stop getting pestered by them. I'm not entirely sure, but I think even Omnigul is affected by it, so maybe Ir Yut is too.

STOP LOOKING AT ME.

My Titan's Helmet collection is completely full. I actually have to start vaulting stuff now if I want any more Titan helmets. Same goes for Hunter Gauntlets. The only thing I have more than 2 spaces for on any character is shoes. Now there's going to be (presumably) a full set of PoE gear, and multiple(?) sets of ToO gear. Im definitely going to run out of space. Those badass PS4 exclusives will be the first casualties, because they can't be ascended. Then my faction gear? I guess I can re-buy it again some day :/

Weapon space is a nuisance, but Im very minimalist with my weapons. I have each character equipped with full VoG, CE or IB gear, and a few floating weapons like LDR or Crucible stuff like The Swarm, but the rest is Exotics. Even then, there's now 8 more Primaries to fit somewhere. 6 more Specials and 4 more Heavies. And that's just PoE and ToO, not any new Vendor gear. I can vault those and probably be okay, but I know a lot of folks have way more weapons than me and will struggle.

Assuming you're landing headshots, your total DpS against the 32 majors at Ir Yut goes up to about 3750 iirc. That's about the same as Black Hammer with Hive Disruptor. Not bad for a high RoF auto rifle.