They can miss. If there is anything between your grenade and the enemy it might still reach out to the target and might even appear to hit them but it won't do any damage. Even things like being behind a tree or down a ramp can save someone. I've also seen them miss if they land within range but the enemy moves out of range before they fire. Last night I even saw one miss as it tried to hit someone who was blinking.

They're not missing. I can see the damage numbers.

Are two firebolt grenades not enough to kill someone? Because it feels I was tagging people twice and they were still surviving.

But people have different tastes and reasons for getting it (such as needing the Light level if they don't have Crota armor), and that's okay too. Me, I'm all about what makes me feel pretty.

Feeling pretty is nice, but it is very very hard to give up carrying more heavy ammo. That would mean being married to an exotic chest piece, when often I'd want to use a helmet. For the time being, I gotta stay with the raid boots, either VoG or Crota.

I usually wear Exotic chests anyway, but in PVP, it doesn't take long to swap gear right as Heavy ammo is dropping, then swapping back as soon as you pick it up (you keep all ammo even when you don't wear the gear, IIRC). I very often change gear/weapons during a match (Voidfang throughout, Praxic as soon as my Super is full).

But people have different tastes and reasons for getting it (such as needing the Light level if they don't have Crota armor), and that's okay too. Me, I'm all about what makes me feel pretty.

Feeling pretty is nice, but it is very very hard to give up carrying more heavy ammo. That would mean being married to an exotic chest piece, when often I'd want to use a helmet. For the time being, I gotta stay with the raid boots, either VoG or Crota.

For Warlocks, I wanted the legs, but only because I hate the Crota legs, but with HoW, I'll be able to upgrade my Viper Spine legs to 38 Light, so there's zero reason for me to do IB anymore, as all of the other armor is very much "meh".

Omg. It never even ocurred to me. I can have Light 36 Gravebreaker armour. YAY!

For Warlocks, I wanted the legs, but only because I hate the Crota legs, but with HoW, I'll be able to upgrade my Viper Spine legs to 38 Light, so there's zero reason for me to do IB anymore, as all of the other armor is very much "meh".

Omg. It never even ocurred to me. I can have Light 36 Gravebreaker armour. YAY!

Me, I'm all about what makes me feel pretty.

Goddamn right. *fistbump*

I suppose it's largely a taste thing, but I don't get the hype. They look like some of the rare-tier helmets with Iron Banner decals.

Aesthetically, I'm much more excited about the HoW vendor gear.

Helmets do look generic, but some of the other gear looks great. Despite having a set of Crota gear for all of my characters, I've still ground Iron Banner for a Hunter set, because it looks great compared to other Hunter armors, and with Glowhoo, the Gauntlets get bright blue wraps that resemble the wristbands that I've worn for years...

For Warlocks, I wanted the legs, but only because I hate the Crota legs, but with HoW, I'll be able to upgrade my Viper Spine legs to 38 Light, so there's zero reason for me to do IB anymore, as all of the other armor is very much "meh".

But people have different tastes and reasons for getting it (such as needing the Light level if they don't have Crota armor), and that's okay too. Me, I'm all about what makes me feel pretty.

I know, I just wanted to make the joke.

Understated

I suppose it's largely a taste thing, but I don't get the hype. They look like some of the rare-tier helmets with Iron Banner decals.

Aesthetically, I'm much more excited about the HoW vendor gear.

Heh - I don't really care what it looks like, I care that it's legendary and 36 light. ;) (The only other helmet in the game that fits that description is the Crota raid helmet - and that hasn't dropped for me, yet.)

I can only get to 32 by 1) acquiring a 36 light legendary helmet, or 2) forgoing my armamentarium... something I HATE doing. ;)

That's the big deal right there: it's not that the IB helmets look that special, it's that they're NOT Crota gear :)

I'll be grinding my Titan and Warlock up to buy them each a helmet this week. My Titan is my main IB character, so I want her to have the complete armor set, and I want my warlock to be able to hit 32 without depending on the Crota helm or an exotic.

Personally, it's the IB chest pieces that look really cool. Understated, but elegant.