Poo bears!

It'll be the Mexico City Zoo vs The Animal Farm. Winner gets to actively participate while the loser spends his night in loading screens and hard resets of his xbox. Sounds like fun

Let's hope the menagerie gets along, I haven't played with quacks in a while and he's pretty cool. Not that you aren't.

If you don't like PvP in this game (and your post makes it sound like you don't), then the Crucible is going to be a brutal, soul-crushing morass of repetition and grind, with a frustrating RNG-based loot system that seems more like punishment than reward.

That's true about all of Destiny, I think.

I am VERY jealous of Cruel's B-Line Trauma with Explosive rounds, and as far as I know, the only way I can get one is from a Purple engram or Crucible package, Or nightfall drop. and the Crucible Packages have the best chance to contain it.

I believe I got mine from a purple engram.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jluv2HxFEqs

There are things you can do to make it better. Situational awareness is the big thing. Unless you are 18 and have the amazing hand/eye coordination (and i've known a few of those guys) you shouldn't just run around expecting to see someone and shoot them.

The maps are designed such that there are few blind corners, and most of the time you can only cover one or two entrances into the area. So you really need to feel out the flow of battle and know where to "expect" enemies to be. Conversely, you can learn somewhat to not be where your opponents expect you to be.

People often recommend staying on the perimeter of the map, and moving from cover point to cover point. This is in part an attempt to control your movement so enemies will always appear in front of you, where you expect them and are looking.

If you both are facing each other, it comes down to who is at the optimum range with the better gun (or whom has Felwinter's lie and a range approaching fusion guns).

If one person sees the other first they have a major advantage. You want to be that person.

I personally like control because players tend to move from point to point more predictably. Clash, Skirmish and the rest are more random because people spawn and move to areas they are comfortable with. This is much harder to predict and guard against people coming up from the rear. Except in Rumble, where there everywhere is dangerous ground and you can bait people in just by standing up.

What I was getting at was that I could rank up a faction now til HOW and receive crucible commendation. Then when HOW drops, I can equip a non faction item and recieve a bunch of crucible rep :)

So instead of just gaining crucible rep in crucible, I can now gain crucible rep through PvE activities.

So for someone who hates crucible, ie the OP. This could be a way to gain rep without playing crucible.

Yeah, that's totally how I was thinking too. As soon as I read the update yesterday, I checked to see how many crucible commendations I have, than calculated to see how many levels of reputation it should net me, and whether I should cash them in on more Dead Orbit, or crucible rep for my alts.

Same goes for anyone who wants to casual crucible. It's just more fun w teammates from dbo.

Not sure I have much to say to get you to like Crucible any more... I have been enjoying it a lot over the past few weeks, including when you are doing it with us.

However, if you're looking for a way to get more crucible commendations before HoW, throw on a faction class item while you do your PvE grind. Even though you're doing vanguard-type activities, if you're rep-ing a faction you'll get crucible commendations instead of vanguard commendations each time you level up.

...out of Crucible packages.

I am VERY jealous of Cruel's B-Line Trauma with Explosive rounds, and as far as I know, the only way I can get one is from a Purple engram or Crucible package, Or nightfall drop. and the Crucible Packages have the best chance to contain it.

Oh! I have one of those, and I pretty much never play PvP. I remember when I got it and I was like "how the hell did I get a crucible weapon? I don't play...."

I'm almost positive I got my B-Line from a Vanguard reward package. Also a Solar two the morgue, which is a crucible shotgun.

The only things I've EVER gotten from my Dead Orbit packages are a combination of

*1 Crucible commendation
*various amounts of glimmer or marks
* 1 shard or 1 energy.

ONE TIME THOUGH, I GOT A SHADER. That was nice. I've gotten an armor piece once or twice. Guns pretty much never... That also applies to Vanguard reward packages.

I tend to get weapons from the Cryptarc and random drops. I've got a really nice The Crash (FWC) and I got that from the cryptarc. Same with my Red Hand (that I never use) and a couple versions of the Deviant Gravity.