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<title>I don&#039;t want to play a game that&#039;s sad. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't really like sad moments, either. I would most certainly chock this up to being myself, however, and not gender differences. I'm the kind of person who prefers happy things to happen in my media. Sad events most likely won't drive me away from something unless the tone of the work as a whole is depressing, though. But the presence of such things is in no way a draw for me.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 23:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>RaichuKFM</dc:creator>
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<title>“I don&#039;t want to play a game that makes me cry!” (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Curious. It's almost as if it was in answer to a question about that moment that a lot of gamers of my generation probably <em>would</em> say elicited that type of reaction: Aeris’ death in Final Fantasy VII (<em>coincidental aside: I'm meeting the guy who made <a href="http://th01.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2010/052/1/7/Myself_and_Masamune_by_chioky.jpg">this</a> in an hour, potentially to buy it — I'm a bad person</em>).</p>
<p>I think Joe shows a kind of reticence towards certain types of emotion that I think reflects the gender balance in game production today. My girlfriend reads a lot of books, and a number of them have included incredibly poignant, emotional and (dare I say) tear-jerking moments — I have to take her word for it as I've not read them yet myself, but anyone who's read The Book Thief will doubtless be able to corroborate this. As with Aeris’ death, did these moments detract from the experience of the story, or did they help paint a picture with a wider range of emotions? I'm wondering if a male-dominated videogame industry is stopping us from exploring this kind of emotion.</p>
</blockquote><p>What is this and why are you comfortable putting it in this post? It looks like you're saying guys can't appreciate sad things or sad moments in stories, or that &quot;normal&quot; guys can't, which seems weird next to you talking about this lack of balance in the industry. It's so jarring it almost seems like a joke or a troll.<br />
For the record, there probably is some genetic male-female difference in typical and average emotions and what's appreciated, but I don't think that completely or even mostly accounts for this, and I generally like my entertainment to not be sad (very rarely do I like it like that, in fact), but that's me.<br />
super late, I know, but I think this is a worthwhile conversation (not just about this comment, the whole thread)</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 22:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>General Vagueness</dc:creator>
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<title>Did you just call me fat?!? (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2013 20:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Mr Daax</dc:creator>
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<title>It&#039;s ok. I agree. (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2013 16:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ZackDark</dc:creator>
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<title>White elephants maybe (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2013 16:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Jillybean</dc:creator>
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<title>What is this sunshine you speak of? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am right there with you, sir :)</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2013 16:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Mr Daax</dc:creator>
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<title>but you spoilt it (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But you don't know when, where or how it happens, do you?</p>
<p>I believe you're still fit to be impacted by it.</p>
</blockquote><p>I mean no offense, but everybody can't like everything, and life is short.  What I've seen of FF doesn't appeal to me. I own games I'm interested in that I haven't started. I've spent weeks trying to finish BioShock, the first game I bought for the 360 in 2007. Diving into a franchise with umpteen installments doesn't interest me. I've got a job to keep, and family and friend relationships to maintain. I also like books and movies and, on occasion, sunshine.</p>
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<title>but you spoilt it (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But you don't know when, where or how it happens, do you?</p>
<p>I believe you're still fit to be impacted by it.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2013 15:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ZackDark</dc:creator>
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<title>but you spoilt it (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2013 14:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>I thought you&#039;d like it. (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2013 14:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>DBO: We&#039;re the white tigers (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2013 14:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>ZackDark</dc:creator>
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<title>So...we&#039;re like (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the white tigers of the gaming community?</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2013 14:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Mr Daax</dc:creator>
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<title>Soap Box Moment (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That the gaming community is full of immature man-boys is no secret. But they aren't the whole population of male gamers. One need only look at the forum here, like Mid7night's new dad status, or see the awesome things that Bungie does for charity, to realize that.</p>
</blockquote><p>I fully agree that they aren't the whole population, but this forum isn't representative of gaming as a whole and, unfortunately, Bungie are not representative of most producers, and even more unfortunately, the big publishers don't seem to realise this.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2013 13:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Jillybean</dc:creator>
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<title>[This reply is below your display threshold] (reply)</title>
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<title>This link made me happy (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was some pretty good stuff in that interview. As in, hints that someone at Bungie actually gets it.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2013 07:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>Too late, Joe. &quot;Send me out... with a bang.&quot; :&#039;( (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2013 04:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Leviathan</dc:creator>
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<title>“I don&#039;t want to play a game that makes me cry!” (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This is easy. Because you don't want them to.</p>
<p>Don't believe me? Conventional wisdom says it's the publishers who are adverse to taking risks, and if indie games just had funding then all would be well. Okay, so look at kickstarter. Get your game funded on kickstarter, and you can do anything you want.</p>
<p>So where are all the amazing, emotional innovative games coming from kickstarter that are being heaped with money from fans demanding quality emotional engagement? Oh there are none? What's getting funded? RETRO GAMES.</p>
<p>You all had your chance, but chose to fund games that not only do not innovate, but actually go backward.</p>
</blockquote><p>Are we looking at different Kickstarters? I see plenty of original games on Kickstarter, and have contributed to as many as I believe look worthwhile as I can. Some of them are retro in style but they are innovative in gameplay, story, or sometimes even controls. This is mostly because they are still indie studios that they have retro looks, not because they don't have either skills necessarily.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2013 03:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>Xenos</dc:creator>
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<title>“I don&#039;t want to play a game that makes me cry!” (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I mentioned this on Kotaku at one point and one commenter said no male gamer wants to protect anything </p>
</blockquote><p>Whoever said this should not have kids until his position is radically reconsidered.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2013 02:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Listen to what he actually said... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His point wasn't that he doesn't think games can make people cry: he thinks games can elicit a range of emotion that other mediums maybe can't, or games can do those emotions better than other mediums can. So rather than trying to imitate what books and film do emotionally, he wants to concentrate on what games are good at more naturally.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2013 02:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
<dc:creator>RC</dc:creator>
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<title>“I don&#039;t want to play a game that makes me cry!” (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why do companies take such risks with things like online DRM, which has backfired horribly with Sim City and EA has been giving away free games to compensate, but they won't take a risk with expanding some emotional horizons?</p>
</blockquote><p>This is easy. Because you don't want them to.</p>
<p>Don't believe me? Conventional wisdom says it's the publishers who are adverse to taking risks, and if indie games just had funding then all would be well. Okay, so look at kickstarter. Get your game funded on kickstarter, and you can do anything you want.</p>
<p>So where are all the amazing, emotional innovative games coming from kickstarter that are being heaped with money from fans demanding quality emotional engagement? Oh there are none? What's getting funded? RETRO GAMES.</p>
<p>You all had your chance, but chose to fund games that not only do not innovate, but actually go backward.</p>
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<dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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