That this was not considered a given for you actually gives me pause.

Maybe I just expect the perfect console patches I get from Valve

You actually remind me a lot of the Dota2/CS:GO crowd, post patches.

Are those console games? No? Then how does it relate to my post?

Yes.

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/Counter-Strike-GO/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d8025841125a

With Valve's console ports, do they actually continue releasing patches, or do they offload that on a third party? The 360 version of CS:GO, for instance, does not receive the same patches or content as the Steam version.

My only reference for a game that is a console game and a PC/Steam game is Dungeon Defenders. I had it on the XBox 360 and it was HORRIBLE hearing the conversation from the dev's between how often the PC game got patches and updates and how often the console did. It also didn't help that they weren't as big as Bungie, and got shafted in the pecking order from Xbox's testers. Basically, it took at least a couple months to get a decent size patch out.

Where as the PC version got updates regularly and more content etc... Basically you had to treat them as two different games because of their unique bugs and what not.

It's been interesting playing Destiny, as it's my first experience with a console game that gets patches on a sometimes weekly basis. The game has changed pretty significantly in the 7 months it's been out; I can't recall a console game I played that's changed close to as much in it's lifetime, much less half a year.

With Valve's console ports, do they actually continue releasing patches, or do they offload that on a third party? The 360 version of CS:GO, for instance, does not receive the same patches or content as the Steam version.

My only reference for a game that is a console game and a PC/Steam game is Dungeon Defenders. I had it on the XBox 360 and it was HORRIBLE hearing the conversation from the dev's between how often the PC game got patches and updates and how often the console did. It also didn't help that they weren't as big as Bungie, and got shafted in the pecking order from Xbox's testers. Basically, it took at least a couple months to get a decent size patch out.

Where as the PC version got updates regularly and more content etc... Basically you had to treat them as two different games because of their unique bugs and what not.

With Valve's console ports, do they actually continue releasing patches, or do they offload that on a third party? The 360 version of CS:GO, for instance, does not receive the same patches or content as the Steam version.

Valve is only really half interested in console development. Partially do to issues they've had in the past. For example TF2 was supposed to have all of the same content that the PC version had but they couldn't get passed memory issues on the 360 to make it happen. Ever since then their console ports, while they function nearly perfectly, do not receive much in the way of new patches unless there is a big bug to fix.

So the Blizzard model of console support, then?

With Valve's console ports, do they actually continue releasing patches, or do they offload that on a third party? The 360 version of CS:GO, for instance, does not receive the same patches or content as the Steam version.

Valve is only really half interested in console development. Partially do to issues they've had in the past. For example TF2 was supposed to have all of the same content that the PC version had but they couldn't get passed memory issues on the 360 to make it happen. Ever since then their console ports, while they function nearly perfectly, do not receive much in the way of new patches unless there is a big bug to fix.

That this was not considered a given for you actually gives me pause.

Maybe I just expect the perfect console patches I get from Valve

You actually remind me a lot of the Dota2/CS:GO crowd, post patches.

Are those console games? No? Then how does it relate to my post?

Because despite what you're saying them being console games doesn't have much to do with it. It's because the games you're talking about are NOT complicated online heavy/only games. The closest to being like Destiny is TF2 which is infinitely less complicated than Destiny.

With Valve's console ports, do they actually continue releasing patches, or do they offload that on a third party? The 360 version of CS:GO, for instance, does not receive the same patches or content as the Steam version.

That this was not considered a given for you actually gives me pause.

Maybe I just expect the perfect console patches I get from Valve

You actually remind me a lot of the Dota2/CS:GO crowd, post patches.

Are those console games? No? Then how does it relate to my post?

The games aren't really what I'm talking about. More the histrionic reactions from the player base. You'd fit right in.

That this was not considered a given for you actually gives me pause.

Maybe I just expect the perfect console patches I get from Valve

You actually remind me a lot of the Dota2/CS:GO crowd, post patches.

Are those console games? No? Then how does it relate to my post?

Because despite what you're saying them being console games doesn't have much to do with it. It's because the games you're talking about are NOT complicated online heavy/only games. The closest to being like Destiny is TF2 which is infinitely less complicated than Destiny.

That this was not considered a given for you actually gives me pause.

Maybe I just expect the perfect console patches I get from Valve

You actually remind me a lot of the Dota2/CS:GO crowd, post patches.

Are those console games? No? Then how does it relate to my post?

That this was not considered a given for you actually gives me pause.

Maybe I just expect the perfect console patches I get from Valve

You actually remind me a lot of the Dota2/CS:GO crowd, post patches.

That this was not considered a given for you actually gives me pause.

Maybe I just expect the perfect console patches I get from Valve and Platinum.

Only on Valve's offline games (and even then not 100% of the time). Go look at Dota 2 updates and you'll find plenty of bugs introduced after patches.

Example: http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1mz5va/to_sum_up_all_the_glitchesbugs_since_the_new_patch/

That this was not considered a given for you actually gives me pause.

Maybe I just expect the perfect console patches I get from Valve and Platinum.

BOOM, HEADSHOT.

That this was not considered a given for you actually gives me pause.

Maybe I just expect the perfect console patches I get from Valve and Platinum.

Can't speak to Valve's games (never played them... I know, crazy right?), but I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that Destiny is more complicated than every game Platinum has ever made put together. We need to remember that the entire game is always online, and it's all completely interconnected. I can't even begin to imagine the logistical challenge of organizing all the various systems and making sure that a change in 1 place doesn't effect anything else.

That this was not considered a given for you actually gives me pause.

Maybe I just expect the perfect console patches I get from Valve and Platinum.

That this was not considered a given for you actually gives me pause.

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Just kidding. It's literally every single game.

This. I think the most recent game I played that was very frequently patched was ME3's multiplayer. There were balance changes made to MP every week (that's no an exaggeration - it was done every Tuesday, on a schedule). And yep, frequently those changes would introduce new issues. And that was JUST balance changes - adjustments to powers and weapon behavior.

If anyone's reading this and wondering how a console game updated so often, as I understood it the changes were actually being made server-side. The clients get all their data from the servers when a game session is started, or something along those lines.