It's kind of a bummer if frequent posters who are unhappy with the game have kept people who are happy away. I'd like to tell those people to come back. Don't let the complainers win!

I , for one, am far more exhausted by the personal attacks and bullying against Cody then by any of his criticism of the game, however repetitive or predictable people find it to be. Sometimes people rail against him in threads where he has never made a post (like, for instance, this one). It's hard to blame him for the negative atmosphere when his presence is not even required for it to appear. And complaints about the game will never be in the same category in my mind as complaints against a person in this Community.

Sorry if this feels like unloading on you, but it's not. It's just unloading. I've been holding my tongue on this for a while and it's no one person that it's directed at.

This applies in two directions. It's never been one person making these kinds of posts about the gun they want. There have been a large number of them, most of them innocuous, and when I say I can't get as worked up about it, and I can't relate to getting worked up about it, that's simply the truth. I don't view it as my personally attacking anyone.

It's kind of a bummer if frequent posters who are unhappy with the game have kept people who are happy away. I'd like to tell those people to come back. Don't let the complainers win!

I , for one, am far more exhausted by the personal attacks and bullying against Cody then by any of his criticism of the game, however repetitive or predictable people find it to be. Sometimes people rail against him in threads where he has never made a post (like, for instance, this one). It's hard to blame him for the negative atmosphere when his presence is not even required for it to appear. And complaints about the game will never be in the same category in my mind as complaints against a person in this Community.

Sorry if this feels like unloading on you, but it's not. It's just unloading. I've been holding my tongue on this for a while and it's no one person that it's directed at.

You know, it might have been interesting for all the guns to be available every week, but it was the prices that were randomized. But that's pretty clearly not what Bungie was shooting for. Oh well.

It's kind of a bummer if frequent posters who are unhappy with the game have kept people who are happy away. I'd like to tell those people to come back. Don't let the complainers win!

**looks fondly at HBO**

My other big issue is that you were told you get this exclusively for a while. What if you don't get it? There becomes no reason to have the better version (granted you did have the map and strike but it's still a selling point to going with the PS4).

Huh... That's a great point, actually.

I wonder why Bungie lets Xur upgrade PS4 exclusives, but not sell them? The functionality for his stock to change based on platform is plainly there...

(To clarify, Xur could sell the exclusives IN ADDITION to whatever other weapon is available. I'm not advocating that he sell totally different things)

And I agree with you, this is about being able to experiment and try the different guns and how they handle/work.

I would expect only something, as CruelLEGACY put it, "earth shattering"-ly different to make you, specifically, get this... involved.

I'd have thought you'd understand my deep passion against terrible game mechanics by now :-p

Suros Regime. And human nature being what it is, I was slightly disappointed to find out it was on sale this morning (only slightly--now I can easily have it on two platforms).

Rarity = value. Our covetous nature leads us to make irrational posts on forums.

If you are referring to who I think you are, his posts aren't irrational, though I would agree if you called them irritating. He has legitimate points, the problem is that we've all heard them and he won't shut the hell up about them.

Legitimate points in the sense that he wants a game that is different than what Destiny is, which is a game that was designed in part around random loot drops, as has been evident since the E3 demo.

What I find irrational is all the energy and emotion tied to getting a single gun. As I've said several times, I can't relate. (I can relate to wanting a particular gun, but not to feeling bitter about not having it.)

^^ That is why he (and others) play the game wrong. Someone will probably argue that it's Bungie's fault for making the gun so attractive or alluring, as if it is "THE" gun to have in Destiny (I've tried one out, it's fun, but it's not be-all-end-all).

I'm not disagreeing with you, but having seen some DBOer's last weekend who've NOT been on the forum in months ask me if anything has changed post-wise on DBO the answer was a resounding "No".

Far too much energy is wasted lamenting this game that would be better spent enjoying other games, until changes are either made or new content is out.

HINT HINT.

I'm here because I'm still enjoying the game and don't want to put it down (plus, I like the community), and I don't think I'm alone in that.

It's kind of a bummer if frequent posters who are unhappy with the game have kept people who are happy away. I'd like to tell those people to come back. Don't let the complainers win!

Suros Regime. And human nature being what it is, I was slightly disappointed to find out it was on sale this morning (only slightly--now I can easily have it on two platforms).

Rarity = value. Our covetous nature leads us to make irrational posts on forums.

If you are referring to who I think you are, his posts aren't irrational, though I would agree if you called them irritating. He has legitimate points, the problem is that we've all heard them and he won't shut the hell up about them.

Legitimate points in the sense that he wants a game that is different than what Destiny is, which is a game that was designed in part around random loot drops, as has been evident since the E3 demo.

What I find irrational is all the energy and emotion tied to getting a single gun. As I've said several times, I can't relate. (I can relate to wanting a particular gun, but not to feeling bitter about not having it.)

^^ That is why he (and others) play the game wrong. Someone will probably argue that it's Bungie's fault for making the gun so attractive or alluring, as if it is "THE" gun to have in Destiny (I've tried one out, it's fun, but it's not be-all-end-all).

I'm not disagreeing with you, but having seen some DBOer's last weekend who've NOT been on the forum in months ask me if anything has changed post-wise on DBO the answer was a resounding "No".

Far too much energy is wasted lamenting this game that would be better spent enjoying other games, until changes are either made or new content is out.

HINT HINT.

Suros Regime. And human nature being what it is, I was slightly disappointed to find out it was on sale this morning (only slightly--now I can easily have it on two platforms).

Rarity = value. Our covetous nature leads us to make irrational posts on forums.

If you are referring to who I think you are, his posts aren't irrational, though I would agree if you called them irritating. He has legitimate points, the problem is that we've all heard them and he won't shut the hell up about them.

Legitimate points in the sense that he wants a game that is different than what Destiny is, which is a game that was designed in part around random loot drops, as has been evident since the E3 demo.

What I find irrational is all the energy and emotion tied to getting a single gun. As I've said several times, I can't relate. (I can relate to wanting a particular gun, but not to feeling bitter about not having it.)

Hawkmoon I'd use a lot I'm guessing.

How different would it be from any other good HC you already use? I mean, I can see it being slightly different, since once in a lifetime it might put out enormous amount of damage in a single shot, but even if you take a single extra-damage stack, how different would it really be?

Why do I have to justify wanting to have fun and experiment with a new gun?

Hawkmoon I'd use a lot I'm guessing.

How different would it be from any other good HC you already use? I mean, I can see it being slightly different, since once in a lifetime it might put out enormous amount of damage in a single shot, but even if you take a single extra-damage stack, how different would it really be?

For PvP, it's just that little bit better in every way. Not earth shattering, but enough of a difference to make it specifically desirable. For PvE, I think there are other equally useful hand cannons, and a few that are better.