If I don't use this perk, I usually find myself hunting for primary boxes after a bit.

Awesome!!! And we thought you were gonna have to wait four more raids to get it - you are one lucky SOB ;-)

Haha. Yep, I know it hurts to think you had to complete 4 extra raids to get yours. You're so unfortunate! LOL

- CC

Yeah, Kermit's a big faker. He isn't nearly as bad as Warbow. :3

What was your 3 man strategy on Crota? Double up on rockets?

I fired two Gjallarhorns and Kermit fired one Hunger of Crota while Ottermack did the sword thingy.

Yeah, Kermit's a big faker. He isn't nearly as bad as Warbow. :3

What was your 3 man strategy on Crota? Double up on rockets?

I'm not offended but I do blame all my problems on Bungie geometry. As for Crota and rockets, I find that if you shoot your first rocket wide or over his head. It's makes your teammates pick up the pace and work harder. I motivate!

With my LAN party last week, I wasn't going to have much time for raiding, but I really wanted a few more chances at Hawkmoon before the party; so on Tuesday night I ran three nightfalls, plus one Crota (normal) and VoG, using the Gorgon checkpoint 3x. Of course, those 7 chances at an exotic yielded nothing.

While we were at the LAN - and trying to convince Kermit that he isn't as "bad" at games as he tries to let on - Ottermack, Kermit, and myself three-manned Crota (on normal). Kermit got two exotic weapons (Thunderlord and Dragons Breath if I remember correctly), as well as Black Hammer. We (mostly Ottermack) also helped Kermit get both Thorn and Invective over the weekend too.

I didn't get Dragon's Breath, but I did get No Land Beyond. I was delighted. Destiny drop-wise and otherwise, it was a great weekend.

Watching Ottermack in the Crucible was amazing and instructive. I think I learned from just watching him. I got on Crucible last night with some trepidation, thinking that my rank was going to be screwed up from Ottermack having become the awesome Kermit for an hour or so. It wasn't bad at all, and I feel I improved just by better knowing how to handle certain sections of the maps.

What was your 3 man strategy on Crota? Double up on rockets?

Funkmon is right that explosive rounds can mess with firefly.... but he's not exactly right that the explosive rounds do the same amount of net damage as without it turned on.

Non-explosive rounds do just over 1500 damage. Explosive rounds do just over 1000 normal damage, plus the same amount of explosive damage (for a total of just over 2000 damage).

Also not exactly right.

The amount of damage explosive rounds by themselves do it programmed by enemy type. Your normal damage is always ⅔ plus explosive rounds. How much the explosive rounds do depends on what you are fighting. You gain a small amount of damage versus Cabal, and a large amount against Vex. Other enemies have no bonus, and you do the same net damage.

While we were at the LAN - and trying to convince Kermit that he isn't as "bad" at games as he tries to let on - Ottermack, Kermit, and myself three-manned Crota (on normal). Kermit got two exotic weapons (Thunderlord and Dragons Breath if I remember correctly), as well as Black Hammer. We (mostly Ottermack) also helped Kermit get both Thorn and Invective over the weekend too.

Non-explosive rounds do just over 1500 damage. Explosive rounds do just over 1000 normal damage, plus the same amount of explosive damage (for a total of just over 2000 damage).

What this means in practical terms is that Fatebringer, with explosive rounds turned on, can one-shot the goblins in hard mode VoG, whereas Fatebringer without explosive rounds turned on cannot.

Did you run it multiple times?

Nope. Didn't find anybody with the time, plus I didn't save the checkpoint correctly with my alts. Everybody needs to wipe when I drop in or it doesn't save. Oh well.

I at least got the Crota pulse rifle, which is something I was wanting. I just need Black Hammer and WoC to drop there. I might start focusing more on those.