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Well you got me one. (reply)

Funkmon — Sat, 04 Apr 2015 12:38:58 +0000

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Word of crota is the new VoC! (reply)

slycrel — Fri, 03 Apr 2015 07:49:57 +0000

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Wish I could at least get one... (reply)

red robber — Fri, 03 Apr 2015 04:25:50 +0000

Don't worry, I'll get us one Friday.

Found Verdict will always live on in the Crucible. (reply)

red robber — Fri, 03 Apr 2015 04:19:42 +0000

I didn't get it till after this last nerf. It's very meh... now.

Heroes never die... (reply)

CruelLEGACEY — Fri, 03 Apr 2015 03:32:46 +0000

I wonder if any of the HoW weapons will step in as a common favorite? The Crota's End primaries are largely underwhelming

I dunno - I don't have a lot of the CE weapons, but Swordbreaker seems better than pretty much any other shotgun I have (Found Verdict MIGHT be the exception).

Sorry, I was referring specifically to primary weapons. The CE special weapons are fantastic across the board. Swordbreaker is a beast, Light of the Abyss is a great fusion rifle, and Black Hammer is so powerful it's borderline game-breaking (in the best possible way ;p)

Ah. I don't have any of the primaries, so I can't really comment. (I've only run CE 3 times, and I've only had 3 non-Shard/non-Energy drops, across all chests/checkpoints - two chestpieces and Swordbreaker.)

Raid drops don't like me very much. ;)

The primaries only drop on hard mode... Aside from having weapons with elemental damage to help with nightfalls, you're really not missing much. Fang of Ir Yut is a great Scout Rifle, but I don't think it's any better than Badger CCL or Ghelion's Demise. You actually get better drops from normal mode.

Heroes never die... (reply)

Claude Errera — Fri, 03 Apr 2015 03:27:01 +0000

I wonder if any of the HoW weapons will step in as a common favorite? The Crota's End primaries are largely underwhelming

I dunno - I don't have a lot of the CE weapons, but Swordbreaker seems better than pretty much any other shotgun I have (Found Verdict MIGHT be the exception).

Sorry, I was referring specifically to primary weapons. The CE special weapons are fantastic across the board. Swordbreaker is a beast, Light of the Abyss is a great fusion rifle, and Black Hammer is so powerful it's borderline game-breaking (in the best possible way ;p)

Ah. I don't have any of the primaries, so I can't really comment. (I've only run CE 3 times, and I've only had 3 non-Shard/non-Energy drops, across all chests/checkpoints - two chestpieces and Swordbreaker.)

Raid drops don't like me very much. ;)

Are Fatebringer's days numbered? (reply)

ChrisTheeCrappy — Fri, 03 Apr 2015 03:25:16 +0000

That's a good point. I guess it would quickly become a patrol gun then, which we don't want.

Same thing happened to me. (reply)

CruelLEGACEY — Fri, 03 Apr 2015 03:25:05 +0000

About the Stranger's Rifle... I deleted mine, and I can't seem to get another one. I completed the campaign with my Titan, but never got the final cutscene. Is there no way to ever get another one, even with a new character?

Play it again solo and don't skip the cutscene. Should be given after the cutscene ends.

Not sure I understand... play the final mission again? And what do you mean "don't skip the cutscene"? I thought you couldn't skip any cutscenes, even if you wanted to?

Yeah, replay black garden and don't jump to orbit after it's over. I jumped to orbit with the last character I made before the countdown; I think it isn't awarded until you actually complete the cutscene.

Gotcha. Thanks!

Heroes never die... (reply)

CruelLEGACEY — Fri, 03 Apr 2015 03:24:40 +0000

I wonder if any of the HoW weapons will step in as a common favorite? The Crota's End primaries are largely underwhelming

I dunno - I don't have a lot of the CE weapons, but Swordbreaker seems better than pretty much any other shotgun I have (Found Verdict MIGHT be the exception).

Sorry, I was referring specifically to primary weapons. The CE special weapons are fantastic across the board. Swordbreaker is a beast, Light of the Abyss is a great fusion rifle, and Black Hammer is so powerful it's borderline game-breaking (in the best possible way ;p)

Same thing happened to me. (reply)

iconicbanana — Fri, 03 Apr 2015 03:22:24 +0000

About the Stranger's Rifle... I deleted mine, and I can't seem to get another one. I completed the campaign with my Titan, but never got the final cutscene. Is there no way to ever get another one, even with a new character?

Play it again solo and don't skip the cutscene. Should be given after the cutscene ends.

Not sure I understand... play the final mission again? And what do you mean "don't skip the cutscene"? I thought you couldn't skip any cutscenes, even if you wanted to?

Yeah, replay black garden and don't jump to orbit after it's over. I jumped to orbit with the last character I made before the countdown; I think it isn't awarded until you actually complete the cutscene.

Heroes never die... (reply)

Claude Errera — Fri, 03 Apr 2015 03:21:19 +0000

I wonder if any of the HoW weapons will step in as a common favorite? The Crota's End primaries are largely underwhelming

I dunno - I don't have a lot of the CE weapons, but Swordbreaker seems better than pretty much any other shotgun I have (Found Verdict MIGHT be the exception).

Same thing happened to me. (reply)

CruelLEGACEY — Fri, 03 Apr 2015 03:20:21 +0000

About the Stranger's Rifle... I deleted mine, and I can't seem to get another one. I completed the campaign with my Titan, but never got the final cutscene. Is there no way to ever get another one, even with a new character?

Play it again solo and don't skip the cutscene. Should be given after the cutscene ends.

Not sure I understand... play the final mission again? And what do you mean "don't skip the cutscene"? I thought you couldn't skip any cutscenes, even if you wanted to?

Are Fatebringer's days numbered? (reply)

CruelLEGACEY — Fri, 03 Apr 2015 03:19:18 +0000

I guess i don't feel that. I feel like it just takes 1-2 more shots not much more.

When you're fighting 15 enemies at a time, an extra 1-2 shots per enemy is a big difference :)

On most activities, it won't be any different. I'm talking mostly about top level stuff.

Are Fatebringer's days numbered? (reply)

CruelLEGACEY — Fri, 03 Apr 2015 03:18:03 +0000

Go do an activity with a Word of Crota that is not fully leveled. That will simulate Fatebringer on House of Wolves enemies.

Wish I could... I can't get the damn thing to drop ;p

Your point stands, though. Against tier 1 enemies, it'll probably still do quite well. What worries me is taking Fatebringer up against tougher enemies, like a level 34 hollowed Knight. It might prove to be too weak to be viable. I hope not.

To be fair, don't people generally use their specials or heavies against hallowed enemies? Hand cannons in general are pretty ineffective on tough stuff.

Often, yes. Depends on the situation really. Primaries that have explosive rounds can be helpful against hallowed enemies because they'll at least stagger them. Even if it takes a while to kill, they're great for crowd control (I mean that literally, not the perk ;p).

Are Fatebringer's days numbered? (reply)

General Vagueness — Fri, 03 Apr 2015 03:16:35 +0000

I like the way they set up the weapons, overall. It means that in the Crucible (outside of Iron Banner), on patrols, in story missions (as long as you're not on the highest levels), and in lower-level strikes, you can pretty much use whatever you want, and there are rare, uncommon, and occasionally even common (white-grade) weapons that outperform legendary and exotic weapons in those cases. I have this white-grade sniper, Candace-B, that I picked up a while back with really high impact that's pretty nice in the Crucible-- or it would be if I was much of a sniper; I have a green-grade shotgun with the extended slide perk I've been playing around with; I have another green-grade shotgun with "Shot Package" (two now actually) that I'd still be using if I hadn't had the good fortune to get a rare one with the same perk; I have a bunch of blue-grade weapons that I still use... so yeah, good weapons should continue to be good weapons, just their range of usefulness will be a little smaller.
The new raid weapons will be better against high-level enemies of course. Your current weapons will seem like toys by comparison when you get a Hookmoon, The Sturgeon's Rifle, or Fate of All Flounders.

Same thing happened to me. (reply)

iconicbanana — Fri, 03 Apr 2015 03:16:16 +0000

About the Stranger's Rifle... I deleted mine, and I can't seem to get another one. I completed the campaign with my Titan, but never got the final cutscene. Is there no way to ever get another one, even with a new character?

Play it again solo and don't skip the cutscene. Should be given after the cutscene ends.

Wish I could at least get one... (reply)

CruelLEGACEY — Fri, 03 Apr 2015 03:16:03 +0000

I know the feeling... it took me an obscene number of VoG hard mode runs... then I got 3 within a couple weeks lol

Are Fatebringer's days numbered? (reply)

ChrisTheeCrappy — Fri, 03 Apr 2015 03:15:59 +0000

I guess i don't feel that. I feel like it just takes 1-2 more shots not much more.

Are Fatebringer's days numbered? (reply)

Cody Miller — Fri, 03 Apr 2015 03:15:54 +0000

Go do an activity with a Word of Crota that is not fully leveled. That will simulate Fatebringer on House of Wolves enemies.

Wish I could... I can't get the damn thing to drop ;p

Your point stands, though. Against tier 1 enemies, it'll probably still do quite well. What worries me is taking Fatebringer up against tougher enemies, like a level 34 hollowed Knight. It might prove to be too weak to be viable. I hope not.

To be fair, don't people generally use their specials or heavies against hallowed enemies? Hand cannons in general are pretty ineffective on tough stuff.

Are Fatebringer's days numbered? (reply)

CruelLEGACEY — Fri, 03 Apr 2015 03:15:22 +0000

I am still hoping they increase the damage at least somewhat to stop them from being useless.

However, I find the 300 has no problem dealing with enemies, so maybe the curve is not as great as you think?

300 weapons are fine against level 30 enemies... but against 32s some of them begin to feel underpowered. I suspect level 34 enemies will render most of our 300 weapons useless. But I could be wrong. I hope I am :)