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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm pretty sure rep has no impact on drops/end-of-mission rewards - they seem to be entirely random. ANY current legendary is fair game. The only drops/rewards where faction seems to matter is the items you get in reward packages. Vanguard packages always give Vanguard items (if they give anything, that is) as far as I can tell.</p>
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<title>Very good point. &gt;_&lt; (reply)</title>
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<title>Nah, they are confident in other players aim o_0 (reply)</title>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>...but it's just as random.</p>
<p>I've gotten quite a few Vanguard, Crucible, and Faction items from ROC strikes.  I haven't gotten TDYK from it yet, but I've gotten most everything else.  In fact, I've only ever bought one purple -- the rest of my marks have gone towards materials.  (Oddly, I have zero rep in FWC and New Monarchy, but I've they seem perfectly happy to throw stuff in my general direction in ROC strikes.  Dead Orbit, who I do have rep for, won't give me anything in strikes and will only give me engrams when I reach new levels of rep.  I think I'm being headhunted.)</p>
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<title>Question about Devil You Know (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Field scout takes any hand cannon to 13 shots, regardless of what they start with. Devil you Know had field scout from the vendor, which was pointless because it'd take it from 12 to 13 :-)</p>
</blockquote><p>Ah. Guess I never noticed because TDYK was the only hand cannon I really used which had field scout.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>I went into Iron banner as a level 28 Warlock, and was still 3 shotting with a 300 Devil You know. That thing will last forever.</p>
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For the first time in forever, I actually have enough Marks saved up to buy a Vanguard weapon (not to mention the 35-ish Vanguard Commendations cluttering up my Vault). Devil You Know is a weapon I wouldn't mind adding to my collection.</p>
<p>Any advice on specific rolls I should look for?</p>
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It's gone. Missed your chance.</p>
<p>It's of the medium impact archetype. I believe fatebringer has the same base stats. The vendor Devil you Know had send it, bumping up the range to an absurd amount, along with crowd control, and zen moment. Great gun.</p>
<p>You can replicate it by taking a legendary medium impact hand cannon with send it. The chance has a 6 shot magazine, so field scout conflicts with send it. If you can roll send it on TFWPKY, Venation III, or Red Hand IX, it'd be pretty close to a Devil You Know. Red hand prioritizes stability while sacrificing range, so of the three it's the least desirable for my playstyle. But it looks really really cool.</p>
<p>In my opinion, stability is not too important on a hand cannon. Range upgrades are excellent. </p>
<p>I think for PvP, Outlaw, send it, and third eye would be the best roll!</p>
</blockquote><p>Thanks for the tips!</p>
<p>I've got a TFWPKY, but the roll seems to be better suited for PvE. Hip Fire, Final Round, and a choice of Armor Piercing Rounds, Flared Magwell, or Explosive Rounds. Not something I would typically bring in to the Crucible. I had a Red Hand IX, but sharded it a couple months ago. Just sharded my Venation III when I got Timur's Lash (also more of a PvE roll: Return to Sender, Feeding Frenzy, Perfect Balance, Flared Magwell, Send it).</p>
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<title>I *think* Fatebringer is the same archtype? (reply)</title>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I sharded all mine before I realized that. :(</p>
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<title>Question about Devil You Know (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That being said, I know someone who (from an engram) got a Devil You Don't with field scout, and for reasons I don't quite understand, it took the capacity from 5 to 13.</p>
</blockquote><p>Field scout takes any hand cannon to 13 shots, regardless of what they start with. Devil you Know had field scout from the vendor, which was pointless because it'd take it from 12 to 13 :-)</p>
<p>I rolled both clown cartridge and field scout on my Timur's lash, which gives me an insane 16 rounds when clown cartridge procs.</p>
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<title>Question about Devil You Know (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I got a Red Hand from the nightfall a few weeks ago... It's still sitting at the postmaster. I'll check it's stats tonight.</p>
</blockquote><p>Red Hand is great, but it trades range for stability on the base stats, which in my opinion is not the best.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Any advice on specific rolls I should look for?</p>
</blockquote><p>Others have already covered the fact that you can't buy it anymore (which is a shame, it was a great weapon). I thought it was worth adding that, even if you could, the rolls never change on the versions that are sold at the Vanguard/faction vendors. Only way to get a different roll would be from an engram.</p>
<p>That being said, I know someone who (from an engram) got a Devil You Don't with field scout, and for reasons I don't quite understand, it took the capacity from 5 to 13. It's still a pretty different gun from Devil You Know, but having a lot of shots was ONE of the things that made the original so good, so that roll is worth keeping an eye out for. If you could get that, a decent sight (I hate the ones the Vanguard version comes with), and something to increase range, you'd be getting pretty close.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a Red Hand from the nightfall a few weeks ago... It's still sitting at the postmaster. I'll check it's stats tonight.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>I went into Iron banner as a level 28 Warlock, and was still 3 shotting with a 300 Devil You know. That thing will last forever.</p>
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For the first time in forever, I actually have enough Marks saved up to buy a Vanguard weapon (not to mention the 35-ish Vanguard Commendations cluttering up my Vault). Devil You Know is a weapon I wouldn't mind adding to my collection.</p>
<p>Any advice on specific rolls I should look for?</p>
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It's gone. Missed your chance.</p>
<p>It's of the medium impact archetype. I believe fatebringer has the same base stats. The vendor Devil you Know had send it, bumping up the range to an absurd amount. The vendor Devil you Know had Send it, crowd control, and zen moment. Great gun.</p>
<p>You can replicate it by taking a legendary medium impact hand cannon with send it. The chance has a 6 shot magazine, so field scout conflicts with send it. If you can roll send it on TFWPKY, Venation III, or Red Hand IX, it'd be pretty close to a Devil You Know. </p>
<p>In my opinion, stability is not too important on a hand cannon. Range upgrades are excellent. </p>
<p>I think for PvP, Outlaw, send it, and Crowd Control would be the best roll!</p>
</blockquote><p>Explosive rounds are also quite handy in PvP if you don't roll send it.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>I went into Iron banner as a level 28 Warlock, and was still 3 shotting with a 300 Devil You know. That thing will last forever.</p>
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For the first time in forever, I actually have enough Marks saved up to buy a Vanguard weapon (not to mention the 35-ish Vanguard Commendations cluttering up my Vault). Devil You Know is a weapon I wouldn't mind adding to my collection.</p>
<p>Any advice on specific rolls I should look for?</p>
</blockquote><p>It's gone. Missed your chance.</p>
<p>It's of the medium impact archetype. I believe fatebringer has the same base stats. The vendor Devil you Know had send it, bumping up the range to an absurd amount, along with crowd control, and zen moment. Great gun.</p>
<p>You can replicate it by taking a legendary medium impact hand cannon with send it. The chance has a 6 shot magazine, so field scout conflicts with send it. If you can roll send it on TFWPKY, Venation III, or Red Hand IX, it'd be pretty close to a Devil You Know. Red hand prioritizes stability while sacrificing range, so of the three it's the least desirable for my playstyle. But it looks really really cool.</p>
<p>In my opinion, stability is not too important on a hand cannon. Range upgrades are excellent. </p>
<p>I think for PvP, Outlaw, send it, and third eye would be the best roll!</p>
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<title>Me too. Saddest thread ever :( (reply)</title>
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<title>It...sort of happened to me? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I have yet to see any proof that you can get old vanguard weapons out of engrams.</p>
</blockquote><p>Granted, it was a Lord High Fixer, the old crucible hand cannon, but it was 300 attack, and it was post-TDB. I think you can still pull all of the old weapons via engram.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The stats are practically identical, but the stock TDYK comes with &quot;send it&quot; which gives it it's insane range.</p>
<p>I sharded all mine before I realized that. :(</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have yet to see any proof that you can get old vanguard weapons out of engrams.</p>
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<title>Yup. :( (reply)</title>
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<title>You can&#039;t buy it anymore. :( (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crap. Only chance of getting one is via Engram, then?</p>
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