I struggle against Hawkmoon particularly. I swear it's a two shot kill!

It literally is. Though it feels that way for TLW, Hawkmoon is nearly guaranteed be a two shot kill thanks to the stacking perks. Best Hand Cannon in the game, so obviously it's eluded me to this day...

Want to get it during nightfall this morning on reset? :-p

If I'm still awake at the reset, count me in :)

I struggle against Hawkmoon particularly. I swear it's a two shot kill!

It literally is. Though it feels that way for TLW, Hawkmoon is nearly guaranteed be a two shot kill thanks to the stacking perks. Best Hand Cannon in the game, so obviously it's eluded me to this day...

Want to get it during nightfall this morning on reset? :-p

'nuff said.

I struggle against Hawkmoon particularly. I swear it's a two shot kill!

It literally is. Though it feels that way for TLW, Hawkmoon is nearly guaranteed be a two shot kill thanks to the stacking perks. Best Hand Cannon in the game, so obviously it's eluded me to this day...

It's good, but last night I went back to my 42 round Shadow Price. The longer sustained fire is just too good to pass up. Plus I like my exotic secondaries.

Get a Monte Carlo, and put the 55 rounds on it. I've gotten triple kills without ever letting go of the trigger, all headshot kills thanks to its nigh-perfect stability.

This is of course post exotic buff. Before, it wasn't nearly as good, in part to having much less stability. The perk can now instantly charge your melee which I must admit on warlocks is pretty insane.

Plus, I don't play Crucible enough to really care that much.

It's good, but last night I went back to my 42 round Shadow Price. The longer sustained fire is just too good to pass up. Plus I like my exotic secondaries.

Get a Monte Carlo, and put the 55 rounds on it. I've gotten triple kills without ever letting go of the trigger, all headshot kills thanks to its nigh-perfect stability.

Nobody trolls like Korny. Blue doesn't take party to your elitist PS4 bullshit.

It's good, but last night I went back to my 42 round Shadow Price. The longer sustained fire is just too good to pass up. Plus I like my exotic secondaries.

Get a Monte Carlo, and put the 55 rounds on it. I've gotten triple kills without ever letting go of the trigger, all headshot kills thanks to its nigh-perfect stability.

Nobody trolls like Korny. Blue doesn't take party to your elitist PS4 bullshit.

It's good, but last night I went back to my 42 round Shadow Price. The longer sustained fire is just too good to pass up. Plus I like my exotic secondaries.

Get a Monte Carlo, and put the 55 rounds on it. I've gotten triple kills without ever letting go of the trigger, all headshot kills thanks to its nigh-perfect stability.

I'm ranging with my 72-bullets-in-a-clip auto rifle.

I'll check those numbers later, though, if I remember.

I'm convinced that people that don't use Suros either don't have it, don't have the Suros Regime perk unlocked, or don't realize how beneficial the latter is to PvP.

It's a good gun, for sure, and I bought it from Xur early on, but never liked using it until I needed to for the Iron Banner Bounty. I grew to master its quirks and perks fairly quickly, but once Iron Banner was over, I went straight back to my VoC/Final Rest combo.

Since then, I started using the Monte Carlo, and it's a hugely underrated Auto Rifle. High Rate of fire matched with high stability and the option of long-range or a 55 round mag... And that's without the Monte Carlo Method perk, which, when playing as a Hunter or Warlock is insane (every kill has a chance to refill your knife/Scorch completely, and remember that Scorch gives you an overshield)... I'm consistently wrecking in the Crucible with it, even getting fairly long range kills. The only times I've lost to a Suros is when the people have the High Impact perk on, which causes you to miss a lot at range, but that Suros perk makes it difficult to win even with Scout Rifles, so it's not an issue exclusive to Monte Carlo. I do win most engagements, though...

Combine Suros with Gunslinger's Trance and you have a health grabbing, improved impacting, laser beam capable of sniping in full auto. There is very little reason to play with anything else once you have it.

Mythoclast has a higher DPS at close range (as does really any fusion rifle), as does the Last Word and Hawkmoon, with Thorn being OP at pretty much any range. I find lots of reasons to play with other stuff...

Combine Suros with Gunslinger's Trance and you have a health grabbing, improved impacting, laser beam capable of sniping in full auto. There is very little reason to play with anything else once you have it.

I still want dat Mythoclast, though.