-Disciple

I also accidentally discovered during the run that you do more damage with the Golden Gun when zoomed in. I don't think I had ever actually zoomed in with it before.

The Crota's Presence debuff prevents health from regenerating, so the only way to heal during the fight is with the Chalice of Light found below Crota (or via gear with health-regen perks like Red Death).

Red Death and Suros do not heal you. Presence of Crota prevents healing of any kind without the chalice. Even "regenerates health on orb pickup" perks do not work.

It is a really cool debuff, gives the feeling that Crota is bad news and requires a change in tactics. I also thought the Oversoul was really cool, actively punishing players for death but still giving them the chance to recover from a mistake.

Although I've heard it is possible to negate Crota's Presence with a similar tactic to how you can become invulnerable to Gorgons, lose Time's Vengeance, etc. Seems like more trouble than it's worth, though--it's not that much of a problem.

If it did that would be rad and make exotic choice more of a decision instead of just using ghorn or icebreaker no matter what.

I also think arcblade should hurt crota.

Interesting. Which of these did he use?

Red Death. Don't know if it was a new one or old one (in case that matters).

The Crota's Presence debuff prevents health from regenerating, so the only way to heal during the fight is with the Chalice of Light found below Crota (or via gear with health-regen perks like Red Death).

Red Death and Suros do not heal you. Presence of Crota prevents healing of any kind without the chalice. Even "regenerates health on orb pickup" perks do not work.

Tell that to Zero. I believe it was working for him yesterday.

Interesting. Which of these did he use?

The Crota's Presence debuff prevents health from regenerating, so the only way to heal during the fight is with the Chalice of Light found below Crota (or via gear with health-regen perks like Red Death).

Red Death and Suros do not heal you. Presence of Crota prevents healing of any kind without the chalice. Even "regenerates health on orb pickup" perks do not work.

I'm 99% sure he said it was working for him yesterday.

The Crota's Presence debuff prevents health from regenerating, so the only way to heal during the fight is with the Chalice of Light found below Crota (or via gear with health-regen perks like Red Death).

Red Death and Suros do not heal you. Presence of Crota prevents healing of any kind without the chalice. Even "regenerates health on orb pickup" perks do not work. This as something our group tested while we were doing the fight the first time.

Interesting how fast you ran out of the starting room. Why didn't you take your time clearing a bit more instead of running straight out of the room (with no health recovery)?

Time. we decided to get to the bottom room as quickly as possible, b/c we would have a choke point for any enemies that came down there. It's not necessary for the encounter to clear all those enemies, so we didn't do it. Most of the time, we all made it out of there.

The Crota's Presence debuff prevents health from regenerating, so the only way to heal during the fight is with the Chalice of Light found below Crota (or via gear with health-regen perks like Red Death). It normally wasn't a problem, but every now and then the enemies could shoot through the force field early (or just walk through, like a few Knights did…). Also, enemies just keep spawning in up there, so clearing them out doesn't really get you anywhere in the long run.

there was a rumor on reddit that that chest was glitched and had a daily (instead of weekly) reset. I haven't tested this out, but will give it a try tonight if i get on.

I doubt that's true, but here's what DID happen:

The raid opened up, and if you didn't log out before it went live, the game would give you rewards twice. I guess because you were still logged on, the game considered your character as having played the raid before the reset. So if you logged off, then on again and completed the raid a second time, you got more rewards.

I'll probably be on around 9PM Central tonight.

-Disciple

Interesting how fast you ran out of the starting room. Why didn't you take your time clearing a bit more instead of running straight out of the room (with no health recovery)?

Time. we decided to get to the bottom room as quickly as possible, b/c we would have a choke point for any enemies that came down there. It's not necessary for the encounter to clear all those enemies, so we didn't do it. Most of the time, we all made it out of there.

I think it's going to go a LOT faster next time now that we know what's up.

Definitely! And speaking of returning to the Hellmouth, are any of you guys up for diving back in before the reset to grab that first chest?

-Disciple

i might be on tonight.

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would like to get back to the bridge portion as well. We missed a chest in that hallway of thralls before we jumped down the hole into crota's chamber. I looked up some posts on reddit an youtube today. there is a room on the other side of the hole where the chest spawns. Once you kill the shrieker in the hallway, the chest spawns, and the door slowly closes. you have to rush to get to the chest. As long as one person makes it in, the door will reopen when they open the chest.

I think it's going to go a LOT faster next time now that we know what's up.

Definitely! And speaking of returning to the Hellmouth, are any of you guys up for diving back in before the reset to grab that first chest?

-Disciple