To me it's easy to hit their precision damage area up close, but at a distance I always have to aim lower than the visuals suggest I should-- still aiming at the white thing, but at the notch in the bottom part of it, and at very long distances I have to aim at where it meets the metal, and even that's not 100% reliable. I have yet to get a single precision kill on a Vex with the throwing knife and I've tried a couple dozen times aiming all up and down their bodies.

Yeah, I cannot reliably get precision kills with the knife against Vex. I've gotten a handful, but they were just dumb luck. I actually turn off juggler when I'm playing the Raid or a mostly Vex mission or strike.

I just had a thought, maybe you could practice on the overgrown Vex in the Black Garden-- it won't show you what gives precision damage but at least you can see where it's actually landing.
Come to think of it, suggestion for the next patch: add in stats for ability kills like there are for weapon kills.

Also of note: even in super-slo-mo, Atheon's crit spot seems unreliable.

I find this with ALL the Vex. I think the hitbox is significantly smaller than it appears.

To me it's easy to hit their precision damage area up close, but at a distance I always have to aim lower than the visuals suggest I should-- still aiming at the white thing, but at the notch in the bottom part of it, and at very long distances I have to aim at where it meets the metal, and even that's not 100% reliable. I have yet to get a single precision kill on a Vex with the throwing knife and I've tried a couple dozen times aiming all up and down their bodies.

Yeah, I cannot reliably get precision kills with the knife against Vex. I've gotten a handful, but they were just dumb luck. I actually turn off juggler when I'm playing the Raid or a mostly Vex mission or strike.

Also of note: even in super-slo-mo, Atheon's crit spot seems unreliable.

I find this with ALL the Vex. I think the hitbox is significantly smaller than it appears.

To me it's easy to hit their precision damage area up close, but at a distance I always have to aim lower than the visuals suggest I should-- still aiming at the white thing, but at the notch in the bottom part of it, and at very long distances I have to aim at where it meets the metal, and even that's not 100% reliable. I have yet to get a single precision kill on a Vex with the throwing knife and I've tried a couple dozen times aiming all up and down their bodies.

Also of note: even in super-slo-mo, Atheon's crit spot seems unreliable.

I find this with ALL the Vex. I think the hitbox is significantly smaller than it appears.

You can tell I'm grasping at straws here :-)

Glad to know it's going to be fixed in the next update...which will be in like, 4 months. I'll go hold my breath while every single Fusion Rifle can kill me in one shot.

Extra heavy ammo perks no longer stack, i.e. Armamentarium and Titan raid boots

This is a huge deal if confirmed.

I saw this last night - my max rockets dropped from 8 to 7. :(

Folks on reddit are saying that this is only happening now when Xbox chat is active. I can attest to that. After the raid, MasterNoodle and i ran the nightfall, and the lag was gone (we were still in a party, but only the 2 of us). After that i did some patrol by myself (chat turned off) and the frame rate was fine. So it looks like something in the update does not agree with the Xbone party chat.

I'll double-confirm that. Was running a raid last night and the framerate was incredibly slow. TBH, it actually made the Atheon fight easier (when you have time to line up and make every crit shot, the supplicants go down quick), but it was also making things take forever. We exited the XBL party and used game chat, and IMMEDIATELY the framerate went back to normal.

I noticed @BungieHelp on Twitter yesterday become aware of this, so here's to a speedy fix. :)

Folks on reddit are saying that this is only happening now when Xbox chat is active. I can attest to that. After the raid, MasterNoodle and i ran the nightfall, and the lag was gone (we were still in a party, but only the 2 of us). After that i did some patrol by myself (chat turned off) and the frame rate was fine. So it looks like something in the update does not agree with the Xbone party chat.

I'll double-confirm that. Was running a raid last night and the framerate was incredibly slow. TBH, it actually made the Atheon fight easier (when you have time to line up and make every crit shot, the supplicants go down quick), but it was also making things take forever. We exited the XBL party and used game chat, and IMMEDIATELY the framerate went back to normal.

We regretted this action right away, as (to our now-recalibrated perceptions) Atheon appeared to go into turbo mode.

Also of note: even in super-slo-mo, Atheon's crit spot seems unreliable.

Folks on reddit are saying that this is only happening now when Xbox chat is active. I can attest to that. After the raid, MasterNoodle and i ran the nightfall, and the lag was gone (we were still in a party, but only the 2 of us). After that i did some patrol by myself (chat turned off) and the frame rate was fine. So it looks like something in the update does not agree with the Xbone party chat.

...There are usually complications in getting good FoV measurements in third-person views. I'd like to thank Bungie for putting some very accommodating geometry in the Tower Hangar area.

I want to say some things that Ragashingo will think are immature...

I agreed with your main point! I said: "Having to download a big update twice can be frustrating..." and "I agree with your point but strongly disagree with the way you chose to make it." Bungie should tell people up front how big each update is. They should do better checking to make sure there is enough space before they start a long download. We agree on those things so don't you dare start talking as if I called your point immature.

It was your posting style and tone that I took issue with.

That's what I was talking about, I was going to use a complaining, angry tone and swear, and decided not to. Admittedly I ended up doing that anyway, but I had intended to have a short, to-the-point post. (side note, in real life, I never swear, because I was raised that way and I have weird anxieties about doing things I don't normally do and holding to it keeps me from possibly saying dumb things around the wrong people, but I realize that words are just words, so I've slowly let myself do it on-line)

If you weren't so busy disagreeing with everybody in sight you might have noticed that I said: "I don't think your immature, complaining tone was necessary or helpful. That's all. :)" But you didn't get that because you never listen to anybody, you never concede a point even when you are clearly wrong, and you always talk way way too much about things you clearly don't understand.

Well now that the gloves are off you bother me too, you seem like a sycophant, mainly for Bungie, and an occasional hypocrite.

Also - someday Bungie is "going to have to" allow more then one exotic armor. There is just so much AWESOME! How do I even choose! >_<

I want to say some things that Ragashingo will think are immature...

I agreed with your main point! I said: "Having to download a big update twice can be frustrating..." and "I agree with your point but strongly disagree with the way you chose to make it." Bungie should tell people up front how big each update is. They should do better checking to make sure there is enough space before they start a long download. We agree on those things so don't you dare start talking as if I called your point immature.

It was your posting style and tone that I took issue with. If you weren't so busy disagreeing with everybody in sight you might have noticed that I said: "I don't think your immature, complaining tone was necessary or helpful. That's all. :)" But you didn't get that because you never listen to anybody, you never concede a point even when you are clearly wrong, and you always talk way way too much about things you clearly don't understand.