FWIW, some of us don't do it willingly. I think DST is the stupidest thing ever, and I'd love to get rid of it. If people want to be up earlier, they can just get up earlier, dammit!

Hear, hear!

Daylight-saving time has made things even worse. Silly non-brazilians and their silly timezones...

FWIW, some of us don't do it willingly. I think DST is the stupidest thing ever, and I'd love to get rid of it. If people want to be up earlier, they can just get up earlier, dammit!

I'll do everything I can to help make it happen for you. I want everyone to be able to experience it!

Hey sign me up for this sometime. My schedule is super busy these days, but I've been staying up late(r than I should...) just so I can play Destiny. I'm still pretty low level (23 Voidwalker) but I'd love to try the Raid whenever I could. I'm usually on around 10pm-12am PST weeknights.

I can't remember specifics. I think I've played chunks of the raid with several groups--for a few weekends it felt like the old Halo 2 two days where entire days would get eaten up. Only beat it twice, though, and was there from the start both of those times. :)

I do remember we got very, very close. During these long sessions with newbies, I think fatigue starts to be a factor. That's less of an issue as people learn what to do and make faster progress. Good luck tonight!

We did get reallly close one of those times. Hopefully not so frustrating tonight, indeed.

I do remember we got very, very close. During these long sessions with newbies, I think fatigue starts to be a factor. That's less of an issue as people learn what to do and make faster progress. Good luck tonight!

Another time I was helping another group and half the time we couldn't see Atheon from the middle platform because he had moved closer to someone shooting at him from the sides. We didn't get him while I was on the team.

No. No we did not.

The Weapons of Light definitely helps. My icebreaker would go from 12,000 crit damage w/out Weapons of Light to 17,500 with. But one of the main benefits of having everyone come to the middle for the bubbles is that Atheon doesn't get distracted by people shooting at him from all over. With him staring right at everyone in the middle, you can really get the max DPS that let's you defeat him in 3-4 cycles.

This. During one of my runs I tried to convince everyone to come to the center (except for one on Harpy duty--back when we could control that).

We still got him, but it probably took longer.

Another time I was helping another group and half the time we couldn't see Atheon from the middle platform because he had moved closer to someone shooting at him from the sides. We didn't get him while I was on the team.

The Weapons of Light definitely helps. My icebreaker would go from 12,000 crit damage w/out Weapons of Light to 17,500 with. But one of the main benefits of having everyone come to the middle for the bubbles is that Atheon doesn't get distracted by people shooting at him from all over. With him staring right at everyone in the middle, you can really get the max DPS that let's you defeat him in 3-4 cycles.

The problem with Time, the heartless bastard, is not only that it runs out eventually, but that it also means most of you are in timezones too damn different than mine. Daylight-saving time has made things even worse. Silly non-brazilians and their silly timezones...

I usually have Saturdays free up to (my) evening. Around 8~8:30pm GMT is the time I usually leave, but sometimes I can stretch it a bit further.

The buff is nice, and sometimes people do that... but I did it once with Canecutter's group, and it wasn't met with positive feedback (people probably sparse out too far, and don't like backing up into the bubble's shot-blocking)... It's definitely got its perks, like giving people extra safety when they scatter.

I was the one having the biggest issue with it because it took me a few times to understand what was happening (or maybe you just flat told me). I think if we'd have communicated a little better on the positioning of the shield, all would have been well for me.

I also liked having it on the back wall as a safe haven to jump to from the middle platform. Although, now with the randomness, that doesn't seem to be as valuable.

- CC

We even unlocked the extra chest for not allowing the Templar to teleport, and I didn't get anything except shards and energy...

My group was able to get that chest to spawn last night, but had to wait a bit for a 6th teammate who went too far down toward the Gorgons' Lair and had to return to orbit to start at the top and make his way back down to us again. When he made it back down, we all turned around and saw that the chest had despawned without anyone opening it :(

-Disciple

You just have to make sure everyone is careful not to bump the relic holder. It apparently causes the shield to fade faster (or something like that. I've never been the relic holder) and we've all gotten nuked on that center platform a couple of times because of it.

-Disciple

But in seriousness--the Raid should only take maybe 4 hours for first timers with someone experienced to give advice. Obviously, as long as people can hold their own in a fire fight. If there is only one or two noobies and they don't care about being told all the secrets, it can be done in 1-2 hours.

So depending on how you want to play it, you really only need to set aside one night to feast on the delicious Raid sauce.

I'll do everything I can to help make it happen for you. I want everyone to be able to experience it!

My normal raid group is all level 29 with one level 30. We attempted Hard Mode last week and got to the Templar but just ran out of time (Tuesday reset). It's pretty evident how much of a disadvantage being a level 29 vs 30 is on Hard. We will probably do the raid again on Hard Mode this week but want to get everyone through on their alts first.