There are multiple videos showing that the fifth chest can show up even if you allow the Templar to teleport. Which is why the no vex sacrifices became the leading theory. It is also still very possible that it is just random whether it shows up or not.

Well, we got it with sacrifices happening, so that's not it. Maybe it's nobody dying during either fight?

The reason i thought of this is b/c all the regular raid chests respawn after a set amount of time. They will only give you loot once, but they will respawn and can be reopened if you let enough time pass.

what if there is a time trigger on the chest, and people are either getting there too early or too late? Would be a great experiment if you had the time to kill. Just wait right outside the hidden area and check it every 5-10 mins.

I'll have to remind my team mates of this no-sacrifice thing tonight or tomorrow when we play and see for ourselves

I got the fifth chest last night. The templar cannot teleport. We lost a few Vex to the Conflux, so that's not it. Not sure if anybody can die or not, but nobody did.

They talked about making some changes to the VoG after having those MMO groups come test it. Changes to make the normal mode more completable by mere mortals. Perhaps the Trials section was deemed too difficult?

Here I thought the whole point was for the Vault of Glass to be really really challenging.

Challenging and fun. Make it too hard and it'd be like asking someone to complete Halo 2 on Legendary with no deaths. Who would want to even attempt it at that point? ;)

That's why I said really really challenging, instead of really really hard :-p

Challenging and fun. Make it too hard and it'd be like asking someone to complete Halo 2 on Legendary with no deaths. Who would want to even attempt it at that point? ;)

*banana thinks back to Halo 2 legendary, shudders*

They talked about making some changes to the VoG after having those MMO groups come test it. Changes to make the normal mode more completable by mere mortals. Perhaps the Trials section was deemed too difficult?

Here I thought the whole point was for the Vault of Glass to be really really challenging.

Challenging and fun. Make it too hard and it'd be like asking someone to complete Halo 2 on Legendary with no deaths. Who would want to even attempt it at that point? ;)

Inb4 "Then why isnt there matchmaking".

They talked about making some changes to the VoG after having those MMO groups come test it. Changes to make the normal mode more completable by mere mortals. Perhaps the Trials section was deemed too difficult?

Here I thought the whole point was for the Vault of Glass to be really really challenging.

Why would there be this huge and intricately modeled area hidden away, only to be empty? Were the Trails of Kabr supposed to be actual trials?

I would imagine so. Looks like it was cut for whatever reason and another path hewn through the rock instead. But like other areas of the game that were modeled out but not finished, they decided to just leave it there.

Or maybe this route is for activating another chest further in the VoG (maybe this is what makes the chest by the Templar actually pay out)? Anyone try going this route with their entire team? Without dying? Maybe you're not supposed to die at the entrance to activate a chest in this area?

However, if you explore the secret path, you find it's pretty intricate with strange geometry and progression paths. To get there, just jump off the ledge by the chest, and double jump onto an entrance to a hallway below. There's lots of jumping, and small platforms and ledges. It's also empty. I could imagine it being really fun fighting your way through with Vex in the area.

Why would there be this huge and intricately modeled area hidden away, only to be empty? Were the Trails of Kabr supposed to be actual trials?