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<title>I smell shenanigans! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I had that kind of power, I would settle with them mailing me the latest build of Destiny instead :) </p>
<p>(Or Music of the Spheres)</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2013 16:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>marmot 1333</dc:creator>
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<title>I smell shenanigans! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He probably convinced Bungie to set it that day!</p>
<p>;p</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2013 13:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>ZackDark</dc:creator>
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<title>WHOA (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beta code sent via email. Congratulations on your accurate prediction!</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2013 00:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>DeeJ</dc:creator>
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<title>Destiny launches 9/9/14 (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slightly bummed that we aren't getting a Spring 2014 release, but I am glad we're still getting a September release. Most of my Halo purchases happened in September and it's not too close to the holidays, but just close enough. I didn't get Halo 1 or Halo 2 at launch, but I hated the November launch for Halo 4 because it felt too close to the holidays to me. </p>
<p>Besides, as several people already pointed out, it would give me almost a year to save up a little bit from each paycheck and get a PS4. :)</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2013 11:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Hyokin</dc:creator>
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<title>Destiny launches 9/9/14 (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm happy with that date. Now I can hopefully plow through this backlog of games I have and then I can buy a ps4 and Destiny come September 9th without feeling too guilty :)</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 03:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>LostSpartan</dc:creator>
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<title>Thoughts (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The timing of the announcement is too close to the VGAs for it to be a coincidence, but I'm still trying to figure out why they would announce it on their own a day before, instead of revealing it at the VGAs during their presentation.</p>
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<p>The 9.9.2014 date, while aesthetically pleasing, should not be treated as a firm deadline. &quot;9.9.2014&quot; should be more reasonably interpreted as &quot;Fall-ish 2014&quot; since Bungie still reserves the right to move the release date around as necessary. So you might ask &quot;why even bother to give a specific date then?&quot; It's a PR game. Consider this situation: </p>
<p>Bungie knows Destiny is not where it needs to be for a Q2 2014 release (or, more accurately, a Jan-Feb beta... more on that in a bit). The VGAs is a big platform for them to show off Destiny and prepare people for it. Part of preparing people for it is telling them when they can expect to buy it. If they stick with a &quot;Q2 2014&quot; date they know they can't deliver on, that's bad for reasons that should be obvious. If they close with &quot;Fall 2014&quot; instead, the only thing people take away from it is &quot;oh, boy, it got delayed.&quot; There's very little upside to that kind of news. However, if instead of &quot;Fall 2014&quot; you say &quot;Sept 9 2014,&quot; you've ameliorated things: people aren't upset because it's been delayed, people are happy there's a (as far as they know) solid date. Bungie can still change the release date if it needs to; doing so would present its own problems, but it's a risk they're willing to take.</p>
<p>Related: does anyone know when Bungie announced solid release dates for Halo 2, Halo 3, and Reach?</p>
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<p>With the beta so close (originally slated for sometime around Jan-Feb 2014), you have to imagine Bungie has been pouring a lot of resources into getting it &quot;beta-ready&quot; as of late. With this in mind, it's possible and even likely that the impetus for the delay had as much to do with the beta not being ready as the full game.</p>
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<p>Let's be honest: Bungie hasn't shown us much of Destiny, and what they have shown (hyperbolic praises from employees aside) hasn't really been impressive. You could totally be forgiven for thinking the Old Russia demo was a re-skinned Borderlands expansion. Compare this to something like Titanfall, whose debut gameplay trailer showed immediately why it's different and why you should be hype (jetpacks! wall running! pilotable mechs!) with no necessary indulgence in apologetics, speculation or having to take people at their word.</p>
<p>Considering this, a delay is definitely a good thing.</p>
<p>If Bungie were still on track for a Q2 release, the two most plausible reasons for the scarcity of gameplay footage/info at this point would be (1) what we've seen is what we're getting, a depressing proposition, or (2) the theory with the most buy-in from members of this board: if they showed stuff, we <em>just wouldn't get it</em>. Neither is particularly inspiring.</p>
<p>A delay like this is an admission on Bungie's part that, yes, the game isn't where it needs to be. They're not showing us stuff because they don't have stuff to show (at least stuff that's ready for public consumption anyway). I think that's a good thing.</p>
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<p>I alluded to it <a href="index.php?id=18286" class="internal">earlier in this thread</a>, but I think we might be seeing Destiny taking COD's coveted Fall release slot. If you assume that Activision has an interest in Destiny and COD not stepping on each other's toes, a Spring/Fall setup makes sense. Fall is obviously the prime spot, and would likely go to the game that is predicted to sell better. This would relegate the other title to Spring.</p>
<p>I wouldn't be surprised if we're seeing a switch here brought on by COD: Ghosts' poor sales, poor reviews, and poor outlook.</p>
<p>Another explanation is that COD will remain ACTV's Fall blockbuster, at least for 2014. Destiny's early September release date (not the usual time frame for a big holiday release) might just be a compromise between giving the game the time it needs and not stepping on COD's toes.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 23:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Schooly D</dc:creator>
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<title>US launch* (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 23:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Schooly D</dc:creator>
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<title>Oh, and 15 years to the day after the Dreamcast&#039;s launch! (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 21:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>ShadowOfTheVoid</dc:creator>
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<title>Another 3+ months? Awww... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was looking forward to some beta goodness sometime within the next three months, with Destiny to suck up pretty much my entire summer. Well, at least the beta is in the summer, and I will have plenty of games from the first six months of the year, including Driveclub, Infamous, DKC: Tropical Freeze, Mario Kart 8, and Watch Dogs, plus various older titles I still need to catch up on.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 21:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>NINE MONTHS!? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But that's... so far away :'(</p>
</blockquote><p>Nobody wants Destiny to be born premature.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 21:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>HOHOHOHO (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://youtu.be/RU8K77doeRQ">http://youtu.be/RU8K77doeRQ</a></p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 20:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>tarehart</dc:creator>
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<title>NINE MONTHS!? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But that's... so far away :'(</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 20:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>RC</dc:creator>
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<title>But seriously. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The silver lining here is that it gives Microsoft more time to fix the broken mess of a party system the Xbox One is currently saddled with.</p>
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Just in time for the first &quot;Fall update&quot; for the Xbox One firmware! Hopefully once again Bungie will be all like, &quot;Oh--Xbox Live should be like &lt;this&gt; and do &lt;this thing that it doesn't do&gt;&quot; and MSFT will be all, &quot;Oh right--you guys are so much better at this whole network thing that we are&quot;... Or at least, that's how the conversation went in my head around the post Halo 2 time..</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 19:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>JDQuackers</dc:creator>
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<title>I was only 10 days off?  I&#039;m proud of myself.  Congrats M! (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 15:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Atsumi</dc:creator>
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<title>I totally almost kicked everybody&#039;s ass (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Near release state, Activision CANCELS Destiny!</p>
</blockquote><p>Totally blaming you, if it happens</p>
<p>=p</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 13:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>ZackDark</dc:creator>
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<title>But seriously. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The silver lining here is that it gives Microsoft more time to fix the broken mess of a party system the Xbox One is currently saddled with.</p>
<p>Also gives me more time to save up for a PS4. :)</p>
<p><span style="font-size:smaller;">PAX Prime 2014 is going to be insane. In a good way!</span></p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 07:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>ncsuDuncan</dc:creator>
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<title>INT. KOTICK&#039;S PALACE - THRONE ROOM (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&quot;His High Exaltedness, the great Acti Vision, has decreed that you are to pre-order Destiny immediately.&quot;</p>
</blockquote><p>Good, I hate long waits.</p>
<blockquote><p>&quot;You will therefore be taken to the Dune Seattle and cast into the pit of Coming-Soon™, the nesting place of the all-powerful SchedSlipp.&quot;</p>
</blockquote><p>Doesn't sound so bad.</p>
<blockquote><p>&quot;In his belly, you will find a new definition of 'Spring' and 'Early 2014', as you slowly become invested over a thousand years.&quot;</p>
</blockquote><p>On second thought...</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 07:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>ncsuDuncan</dc:creator>
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<title>I totally almost kicked everybody&#039;s ass (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I'm proud of Bungie for landing a release date.</p>
</blockquote><p>Heheh, thanks for the mental image of the opposite.</p>
<p>Near release state, Activision CANCELS Destiny!</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 06:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>uberfoop</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But most importantly, I'm proud of Bungie for landing a release date. Seems like a long time to polish this game as much as possible!</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 07 Dec 2013 06:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Grizzlei</dc:creator>
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<title>The important result. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Shouldn't you be happy for his win rather than my loss? And they say<strong> I'm</strong> the negative one around here.</p>
</blockquote><p>Heh, I'm not sure I see the contradiction; you're the one acting negatively toward my exceptionally positive victory celebration!</p>
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