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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Your <strike>seven</strike> <em>eight</em> videos versus Cruel's two, and he got the same amount of kills <em>outgunning</em> The Last Word.</p>
</blockquote><blockquote><p>The Last Word is not the best. The Last Word is the favorite. Luckily, by these clips posted here, I don't have anything to worry about any time soon. :-)</p>
</blockquote><p>There's a reason you only really run into Last Word in Quickplay, only a couple of weeks after the gun came out.</p>
<p>Against certain (read: most) playstyles, The Last Word is a joke. It's best against shoulder charging Titans, people caught off guard, and players using the Free trial of D2.</p>
<p>Last night Cruel and I had a nonstop string of games in quickplay where we steamrolled poor teams with Last Word users. Using Fighting Lion and a <em>sidearm</em> (because I don't have my Mountaintop on Xbox, which eats the mostly-stationary TLW users alive), The TLWs were DOA, even when they got the drop on me!</p>
<p>https://xboxdvr.com/gamer/kornymunky/video/69740409</p>
<p>And even when they had the cheap One-Eyed Mask!</p>
<p>https://xboxdvr.com/gamer/kornymunky/video/69740368</p>
<p>Disclaimer: The teabagging is deserved. Cruel and I started that match completely alone against a full team, and they still teabagged when they killed me. Fortunately, we got them to take us seriously real quick:</p>
<p>https://xboxdvr.com/gamer/kornymunky/video/69740373</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2019 18:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Korny</dc:creator>
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<title>Uh-Uh. Number. SINGULAR. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn't going to say anything at first since you seemed so happy about it in the OP and I didn't want to come across as rude, but all this stuff <em>immediately</em> went to your head, and I don't do that sitcom 'spare-their-feelings-until-the-third-act' crap. </p>
<p>You say you're not counting the videos where you didn't use TLW. Are you counting the ones where you <em>did</em>?</p>
<p>You got three kills with it. Not in each video--in each <strong><em>post</em></strong>. </p>
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Your <strike>seven</strike> <em>eight</em> videos versus Cruel's two, and he got the same amount of kills <em>outgunning</em> The Last Word.</p>
<p>Your original post is entitled The Last Word Remains The Best and had three videos in which you got one, two, and zero kills with it. Another post, entitled More Videos Brought To You By <span class="underline">The Last Word</span>, had one clip with two kills, one clip with one, two where you don't even fire the damn thing, and one where you literally don't even have it equipped. </p>
<p>These videos weren't brought to us by The Last Word. These videos were brought to us by the overinflated ego and blind overconfidence imbuing the senses that comes with equipping The Last Word and panickedly spamming the trigger. But...that wouldn't fit in the subject line.</p>
<p>The Last Word is not the best. The Last Word is the favorite. Luckily, by these clips posted here, I don't have anything to worry about any time soon. :-)</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2019 17:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Morpheus</dc:creator>
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<title>a good opportunity to multitask (reply)</title>
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<title>Sounds about right. (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2019 16:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>CruelLEGACEY</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we once figured out and beat the first section of a new Raid while Mac was loading in.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Orbit &gt; land &gt; new SG ammo, sprint bqck.</p>
</blockquote><p>We both know it takes me 5 minutes to load a planet :D</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By a) getting flanked when attempting to deal with an alternate threat and b) having a teammate body block part of the engagement.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2019 08:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Harmanimus</dc:creator>
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Go to hell, Crucible.</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Morpheus</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Your 2 videos vs my 7. Your 4 kills vs my 25. Maybe you should try switching guns, eh? (I was even generous and counted your grenade assist and was fair since I didn't count my video where I wasn't using The Last Word!) :p</p>
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I only posted a couple clips to show that TLW isn’t necessarily the best gun, even  within its (very limited) ideal range. I can post MORE clips like that if you want ;) Still, it can be SUPER effective in the right hands, no doubt. </p>
<p>Plus, you were sharing clips you got using your primary weapon. I was looking for moments where I was going against your primary weapon, which isn’t all that common... I don’t actually see many players using TLW lately.</p>
<p>If you want to see me get 25 kills with MY gun, just watch me play 1 game. That’s about what I average.</p>
<p><img src="https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/958595408452746104/2F7BA3A9738A371F9637D762D88C29E7BC1051B5/" alt="[image]" /></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#fff;">(If we want to be serious for just a moment, that uphill shot in your first video was a good play that would be hard to beat with any gun. The Last Word, especially, works well when you can aim a bit low and let the kick handle the aiming for you. I think you would have had me there near 100% of the time. </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#fff;">For the other video... you killed them pretty quick, but mostly those guys really did suck. Against a competent The Last Word user at that range who you targeted second? Yeah, you lose that near 100% of the time) </span></p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2019 04:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>CruelLEGACEY</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>For the other video... you killed them pretty quick, but mostly those guys really did suck. Against a competent The Last Word user at that range who you targeted second? Yeah, you lose that near 100% of the time</p>
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Cruel should have lost to a competent player throwing rocks during the fight.  Not trying to diminish  Cruel's skill--it's far above my own.   But c'mon.  How do you lose a 2v1 like that?</p>
</blockquote><p>By using The Last Word, A’s was my snarky point ;p</p>
<p>Jokes aside, I don’t think TLW is bad at all. Far from it. I think it’s super situational and quirky in ways that make it ineffective in most players hands. There are players who will absolutely destroy with it. Not many, but it does happen.</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>CruelLEGACEY</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>For the other video... you killed them pretty quick, but mostly those guys really did suck. Against a competent The Last Word user at that range who you targeted second? Yeah, you lose that near 100% of the time</p>
</blockquote><p>Cruel should have lost to a competent player throwing rocks during the fight.  Not trying to diminish  Cruel's skill--it's far above my own.   But c'mon.  How do you lose a 2v1 like that?</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>cheapLEY</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your 2 videos vs my 7. Your 4 kills vs my 25. Maybe you should try switching guns, eh? (I was even generous and counted your grenade assist and was fair since I didn't count my video where I wasn't using The Last Word!) :p</p>
<p><span style="color:#fff;">(If we want to be serious for just a moment, that uphill shot in your first video was a good play that would be hard to beat with any gun. The Last Word, especially, works well when you can aim a bit low and let the kick handle the aiming for you. I think you would have had me there near 100% of the time. </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#fff;">For the other video... you killed them pretty quick, but mostly those guys really did suck. Against a competent The Last Word user at that range who you targeted second? Yeah, you lose that near 100% of the time) </span></p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Ragashingo</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That’s funny, I sure do seem to win an awful lot of close-range gun fights against it ;)</p>
<p>Case in point:</p>
<p>https://xboxdvr.com/gamer/nevindouglas/video/69704005</p>
<p>I know, that was too much of a fair, 1v1 gunfight. Let’s give TLW a bit of a chance, right? Here’s a 2v1, both enemies using TLW at close range against me:</p>
<p>https://xboxdvr.com/gamer/nevindouglas/video/69703884</p>
<p>See, if either of them had been using a gun that could reliably hit anything (ie just about any other weapon) , I would have been toast. Good thing for me they were using TLW ;p</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2019 23:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>CruelLEGACEY</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orbit &gt; land &gt; new SG ammo, sprint bqck.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yeah, I need to dedicate thirty minutes and just knock it out.  </p>
<p>I was doing the one in the northern area by Ana Bray on Mars, knocking out those Hive requirements at the same time, but I got bored really quickly.</p>
</blockquote><p>The easiest one for me was the one on titan on the lower section. It's the ogre in the storage room area. It's perfect because it's really easy to bypass the other enemies and as a titan, I just shouldercharge/melting point + Ikelos shotgun and it just takes one clip. Run away and repeat. What took a long time was just finding shotgun ammo :D</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>MacAddictXIV</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>I don't know anything about resetting Valor rank. What does this require?</p>
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Playing a whole shitload of Crucible.   It's like Prestiging in Call of Duty.   You hit a certain rank, then you reset it and level it up again.    Now do that five times in one season.</p>
</blockquote><p>yep. </p>
<p>nope.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don't know anything about resetting Valor rank. What does this require?</p>
</blockquote><p>Playing a whole shitload of Crucible.   It's like Prestiging in Call of Duty.   You hit a certain rank, then you reset it and level it up again.    Now do that five times in one season.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>...and that vague Pulse Rifle quest I should never have picked up--</p>
</blockquote><p>Yeah, I have that too. Good grief it's never ending. For redrix claymore? Broadsword? I don't know. I'm on step 4 of 9 <a href="https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2018/08/18/heres-the-exact-quest-for-destiny-2s-controversial-redrixs-broadsword-in-forsaken/#2e5a06d858f2">apparently</a>.</p>
<p>I don't know anything about resetting Valor rank. What does this require?</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2019 19:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>ManKitten</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your recoil impulse is about 2x when ADS. The important thing with using TLW is that you don’t want to fire it full auto in most cases. It hits as hard as a 180 but can do so faster, but even pacing your shots a little to hit your first few is highly important to its use. ADS really only to try to finish off someone running away, or to lad early damage on a shotgun. </p>
<p>I don’t think it makes a good primary weapon, it definitely is better suited as a compliment to something that hits harder at range. Snipers and Bows are reasonable. It is good for finishing enemies off. I also will onpy run it on my Hunter in Crucible as even with a full stack of the buff the ammo is low and the reload is not always reliable.</p>
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