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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>Shoulder charge wasn’t super hard to counter in D1 if you were aware they were around. A good shotgun (when the Spec Ammo economy made sense) or a quick charging fusion was all you needed. If they had a Sniper instead, a body shot and a seap to a primary, or even just a primary if the Titan wasn’t good at using the map to their advantage, and you could clean them up. </p>
<p>The reason it was an issue in D1 (and I would say that Jugger-shotgun was way worse than Shoulder Charge) was definitely it being always available. Now you can have that in D2, you just have to choose to lean in on a specific exotic. And slightly behind that was a) more reliable hit detection and b) more aggressive attack magnetism. I basically never bounced off anything with a shoulder charge in D1. Do it all the time in D2.</p>
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Yeah, I agree with all of this. The reason why people hate it is because they are on the receiving end of a 1 hit kill mechanic they aren't using. They don't understand how difficult it is to use without dying.</p>
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I'm excited to have TLW back to counter shoulder charging Titans.</p>
</blockquote><p>With the prevalence of shotguns, you don't need TLW :P</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>MacAddictXIV</dc:creator>
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<title>I&#039;m assuming what Cody is looking for is unicode emoji suppo (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 15:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Okay, fixed for real. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>????</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>Okay, fixed for real. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>????</p>
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Even if that did work, what would Windows users see? I assume this is just supposed to be Unicode, and I'm guessing the BBS script isn't parsing it, or the database it's writing into doesn't have the right character set to support it.</p>
</blockquote><p>Actually check that, charset support should not be the issue, it looks like the script just doesn't support it.</p>
<p>Here's a feature request about it fro 2016:</p>
<p><a href="https://mylittleforum.net/forum/index.php?id=8781">https://mylittleforum.net/forum/index.php?id=8781</a></p>
<p>And a support request from 2018 (original in German) that describes the behavior seen here-- emojis display in the preview but not after submission.</p>
<p><a href="https://mylittleforum.net/forum/index.php?id=11105">https://mylittleforum.net/forum/index.php?id=11105</a></p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>????</p>
</blockquote><p>Even if that did work, what would Windows users see? I assume this is just supposed to be Unicode, and I'm guessing the BBS script isn't parsing it, or the database it's writing into doesn't have the right character set to support it.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Okay, fixed for real. (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2019 16:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Okay, fixed for real. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>There was supposed to be emojis in that post.</p>
<p>Not fixed :-(</p>
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No clue what you're trying - but I never said I was allowing emojis - I said I was fixing the problem with tweets that contain emojis. Not the same thing at all.</p>
<p>You're now changing what you're asking for. (I have very little interest in figuring out how to allow 'emojis' - because there are hundreds of sources, with many different requirements. Twitter has open-sourced its functionality, so that was doable.)</p>
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Ah. I thought whatever you did would allow us to use emojis in posts as well.</p>
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if you tell me what 'use emojis' means to you (are you pasting in a picture? Copying and pasting from some library, including the iOS library? using unicode equivalents?), I can try something minor and see if it works.</p>
</blockquote><p>On the Mac, press command control space in a text field and you can pick emojis.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2019 06:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>Okay, fixed for real. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><p>There was supposed to be emojis in that post.</p>
<p>Not fixed :-(</p>
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No clue what you're trying - but I never said I was allowing emojis - I said I was fixing the problem with tweets that contain emojis. Not the same thing at all.</p>
<p>You're now changing what you're asking for. (I have very little interest in figuring out how to allow 'emojis' - because there are hundreds of sources, with many different requirements. Twitter has open-sourced its functionality, so that was doable.)</p>
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Ah. I thought whatever you did would allow us to use emojis in posts as well.</p>
</blockquote><p>if you tell me what 'use emojis' means to you (are you pasting in a picture? Copying and pasting from some library, including the iOS library? using unicode equivalents?), I can try something minor and see if it works.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2019 04:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Claude Errera</dc:creator>
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<title>Okay, fixed for real. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>There was supposed to be emojis in that post.</p>
<p>Not fixed :-(</p>
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No clue what you're trying - but I never said I was allowing emojis - I said I was fixing the problem with tweets that contain emojis. Not the same thing at all.</p>
<p>You're now changing what you're asking for. (I have very little interest in figuring out how to allow 'emojis' - because there are hundreds of sources, with many different requirements. Twitter has open-sourced its functionality, so that was doable.)</p>
</blockquote><p>Ah. I thought whatever you did would allow us to use emojis in posts as well.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2019 00:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>Okay, fixed for real. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>There was supposed to be emojis in that post.</p>
<p>Not fixed :-(</p>
</blockquote><p>No clue what you're trying - but I never said I was allowing emojis - I said I was fixing the problem with tweets that contain emojis. Not the same thing at all.</p>
<p>You're now changing what you're asking for. (I have very little interest in figuring out how to allow 'emojis' - because there are hundreds of sources, with many different requirements. Twitter has open-sourced its functionality, so that was doable.)</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2019 23:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Claude Errera</dc:creator>
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<title>Okay, fixed for real. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was supposed to be emojis in that post.</p>
<p>Not fixed :-(</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2019 23:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>Okay, fixed for real. (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2019 23:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>Fair - I wouldn&#039;t, either. (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2019 21:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Claude Errera</dc:creator>
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<title>I&#039;m not sure if I believe you anymore ;) (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2019 21:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Blackt1g3r</dc:creator>
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<title>Okay, fixed for real. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here's a new test, no manipulation:</p>
<p><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;A Special Kind of Revive&quot;<br><br>🎨 by K8DaGr8t - <a href="https://t.co/r7Ihksi46i">https://t.co/r7Ihksi46i</a> <a href="https://t.co/kOP4QnVgML">pic.twitter.com/kOP4QnVgML</a></p>&mdash; Bungie (@Bungie) <a href="https://twitter.com/Bungie/status/1088498617722101760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 24, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2019 21:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Claude Errera</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>lag or quick aiming</p>
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Entirey possible both. On PC I do that to people (rarely as I mostly use my charges for movement) but I also have about a 14cm 360 (which is tiny, as I wrist aim) but the minor adjustments that melee lunges can do will apply, so if the game thinks you are somewhere and you may appear somewhere else wonky things do happen.</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2019 20:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Harmanimus</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yeah, I agree with all of this. The reason why people hate it is because they are on the receiving end of a 1 hit kill mechanic they aren't using. They don't understand how difficult it is to use without dying.</p>
</blockquote><p>The only thing that annoys me about shoulder charge is when a Titan flies by me in the air at 1000 mph, and then shoulder charges in the complete reverse direction of their momentum to kill me. I don't know if it's a glitchy-type thing that is possible with whipping your aim around fast enough, or more of a lag thing, but it never fails to result in an exclamation.</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2019 20:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>squidnh3</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>Shoulder charge wasn’t super hard to counter in D1 if you were aware they were around. A good shotgun (when the Spec Ammo economy made sense) or a quick charging fusion was all you needed. If they had a Sniper instead, a body shot and a seap to a primary, or even just a primary if the Titan wasn’t good at using the map to their advantage, and you could clean them up. </p>
<p>The reason it was an issue in D1 (and I would say that Jugger-shotgun was way worse than Shoulder Charge) was definitely it being always available. Now you can have that in D2, you just have to choose to lean in on a specific exotic. And slightly behind that was a) more reliable hit detection and b) more aggressive attack magnetism. I basically never bounced off anything with a shoulder charge in D1. Do it all the time in D2.</p>
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Yeah, I agree with all of this. The reason why people hate it is because they are on the receiving end of a 1 hit kill mechanic they aren't using. They don't understand how difficult it is to use without dying.</p>
</blockquote><p>I'm excited to have TLW back to counter shoulder charging Titans.</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2019 20:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Hmm. Well. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay - so I made progress - but not REAL progress. </p>
<p>The first time a Tweet is displayed (not in preview, but as an actual post), it works fine.</p>
<p>Then it's broken again.</p>
<p>That's stupid, and I'm unhappy.</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Claude Errera</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here's a tweet from a couple of days ago, with an emoji:</p>
<p><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This week at Bungie, we’re getting ready to turn up the power.<br><br>💠 <a href="https://t.co/JYY60CBzVH">https://t.co/JYY60CBzVH</a> <a href="https://t.co/EJfJAk8Ngu">pic.twitter.com/EJfJAk8Ngu</a></p>&mdash; Bungie (@Bungie) <a href="https://twitter.com/Bungie/status/1088875866849853440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 25, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Claude Errera</dc:creator>
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