Developers from Bungie will be on the hot seats along with some representatives from our new partners at Vicarious Visions to talk about this new adventure that we created together.

It makes me curious whether their involvement is just the continued support for the PC side of things or if they have expanded to helping with content production.

In that same vein, do we know what High Moon is doing on D2?

TTK really worked to sell Oryx and the Hive as a credible threat, something that should have been done for Ghaul and the Cabal in D2 but wasn't. The Dreadnought was stuffed with secrets and strange areas that felt different and distinct. D2's Mercury feels like it's only the size of one area from the Dreadnought.

TTK is a great expansion, and I'm definitely hoping Warmind is a bigger expansion than CoO was, but I'm definitely not expecting TTK levels of content. If this is a HoW sized expansion I'll be plenty happy.

I think that’s a safe and reasonable bet.

TTK really worked to sell Oryx and the Hive as a credible threat, something that should have been done for Ghaul and the Cabal in D2 but wasn't. The Dreadnought was stuffed with secrets and strange areas that felt different and distinct. D2's Mercury feels like it's only the size of one area from the Dreadnought.

TTK is a great expansion, and I'm definitely hoping Warmind is a bigger expansion than CoO was, but I'm definitely not expecting TTK levels of content. If this is a HoW sized expansion I'll be plenty happy.

I haven't experienced that yet. So what you're saying is that Bungie has worked themselves into a bind, or potentially needs some larger maps. That Mayhem playlist with all these "go fast" additions has been a blast, and it'd get even more insane with more players. :P

I actually had loads of fun in the mayhem playlist too. It’s just crazy silly fun. 6v6 mayhem would be hilarious :)

Bungie's seemingly figured out the variety issues with actual gameplay with a lot of their recent updates (though I still think they're missing the mark on how often supers occur, and we need more 6v6 in general beyond just Iron Banner), but this playlist and gametype thing could seriously use some work beyond just the maps.

I strongly disagree with this, at least within our current selection of maps. Since the “go fast” update, I’ve already noticed a sharp increase in the “get killed by roaming super, respawn and instantly get killed again by the same guardian with the same roaming super” phenomena. Like, it happens to me at least every other match. Cramming 4 more players into these tiny maps means more supers, more orbs, and even more supers. They’re already a problem, and I’m not a fan of anything that makes them happen more frequently :-/

Bungie has always had people who felt it was cool to hate on their games. Halo was like this, as well as Destiny 1.

The popularity of COD and PBUG/FORTNIGHT really tells me that people want to bread and circuses over all else. Even the D1 crucible complaints were a bit overblown or misdirected, as streamers wanted to nerf things that hurt them but not things that hurt other players (SNIPERS).

I think that Bungeie's main mistake in D2 was taking things away from players that existed in D1, notably the boss rush of the Forge and Oryx's council, sparrow racing, 6 man pvp, all gear, and not iterating enough elsewhere to compensate.

The changes to public events and lost sectors was good, but minor. Bungie needs someone to go around and say, "thats a good idea, how do we take it farther?". They have so many systems in place that just seem to be a good push away from being really great.

There is a bit of a pile-on going on through Reddit and other forums, but I can't give anyone a tough time for feeling skeptical about the new DLC. I love a lot about Destiny 2, but there are definitely some head-scratching problems with it (of the "but... they got this part so right in TTK, how did they get it so wrong in D2?" variety). For me personally, Curse of Osiris was a huge blow. This is just my opinion, but I think CoO is a truly terrible expansion. It's still Destiny, so there's stuff about it that is still fun to play. But as a package of "new content", I think it is poor in almost every way. So I can't help feeling skeptical about Warmind. I'm a bit anxious about it, really. I've already paid for it, so I'm obviously going to play it. But if it is as the same quality level as CoO for me, then my already shaky faith in Bungie as a developer will take another hard hit. I don't know exactly what that means to me, aside from the fact that I certainly won't be pre-ordering anything else from them any time soon. I really do hope it turns out well, because I think D2 still has a lot of potential.

At any rate, I love the art that they've shown. Great aesthetic. Fingers crossed :)

Bungie's seemingly figured out the variety issues with actual gameplay with a lot of their recent updates (though I still think they're missing the mark on how often supers occur, and we need more 6v6 in general beyond just Iron Banner), but this playlist and gametype thing could seriously use some work beyond just the maps.

The popularity of COD and PBUG/FORTNIGHT really tells me that people want to bread and circuses over all else. Even the D1 crucible complaints were a bit overblown or misdirected, as streamers wanted to nerf things that hurt them but not things that hurt other players (SNIPERS).

I think that Bungeie's main mistake in D2 was taking things away from players that existed in D1, notably the boss rush of the Forge and Oryx's council, sparrow racing, 6 man pvp, all gear, and not iterating enough elsewhere to compensate.

The changes to public events and lost sectors was good, but minor. Bungie needs someone to go around and say, "thats a good idea, how do we take it farther?". They have so many systems in place that just seem to be a good push away from being really great.

So, happy to see the populations will be unified going forward. I think it is more just a rational decision given the current state of the industry and likely not q reaction to any one stimulus.

I just want to let everyone know I'm going to buy it and I fully expect to have fun, even if they make the game worse, because the game is fun.

I'm not really excited about the changes announced. In general, I have not liked changes made to the game, with few exceptions, since 1.0. Random weapons, reworking exotics, a new primary/secondary/heavy system or whatever, I don't even care. I'm sure it'll be fine. I just want more game to play.

They probably did it that way because they don't want to split the player-base for matchmaking. I wonder if matchmaking has a smaller population than previously?

Likely, but it’s also the direction more and more games are moving towards. The whole “dlc map pack” thing has caused fragmentation issues since day 1. Bungie used to be able to mitegate that by making the DLC maps free over time, but these days the general move is to make additional maps free for everyone and make extra money through cosmetics and other Microtransactions.