Oh I know that, I'm just saying I've never seen people following others in and out of plates, as per the description.

Ah, I see. I guess I just meant to illustrate that they were making exactly the WRONG tactical moves at the wrong times. I don't think they're literally following me. I'm not even sure they see me sometimes TBH.

So far, either everyone takes a plate, or I do it alone. But yeah, just use them as bullet sponges if they follow you to each plate/conflux, or wherever.

My feeling is that if they're not going to realize the redundancy, I need to do it for them and go be useful somewhere else. But unhelpful players dying is always funny, I guess.

So far, either everyone takes a plate, or I do it alone. But yeah, just use them as bullet sponges if they follow you to each plate/conflux, or wherever.

The point is that they all group up on one plate, which does not make it capture faster. Which means that splitting up and doing them all at the same time is better. If I'm already on a plate, there is NO good reason for anyone else to need to be there, except maybe to help kill things. But capturing a different plate or defending the center conflux should be a WAY bigger priority than helping me on a plate I was already on. I don't need 3 people to help me kill one occasional Fanatic.

Notice how the randos in my video split up and captured all 3 plates simultaneously. And since they were doing that, I didn't go stand on a plate, because I wouldn't accomplish anything by doing so. It was more productive for me to just stand center (my location didn't REALLY matter, that was just a good spot where I could see everything) and help kill Vex. This was doing it right.

Heh. They must like your armor or something. Reading through your description was flat-out mindblowing. I have never. Ever. EVER had someone explicitly follow me (D1 or D2) without me telling them to. Now, there have always been plenty of instances where someone else and myself were going to the same place, but we'd separate the second our paths were no longer common. But I've never herd of that before!

Next time you have a problem like that, just stay on the plate, and use grenades or rockets to blast out any attackers. I've had to create(and complete) HPE's alone, pretty much all the time. Just float up in place so you lose as little plate time as possible. As long as the others are shooting Vex and actually doing something, it should be a cakewalk.

And also because doing the heroic trigger without neglecting the basic objective requires some halfway intelligent positioning.

If I can skip the Hallows on Nessus, I do, because it's the one Sacrifice event where it's impossible to position yourself to cover ANY of the main objective if you're working the plates (well, 2 of them). Even the one at Exodus Black, where the third plate is two rows up and away from the main conflux, is better - you can throw grenades that MOSTLY keep the area clean while you're on the plate.

Hallows, though - two of the plates are out of sight and with too much in the way. If there aren't at least 2 other people there, I just skip it.

Then one day we were with a pretty big group of randoms who managed to eliminate the big blight on the very first round, and that opened our eyes. Eventually we figured out the buff, and now we’re in the know.

Apologies to everyone for whom we screwed up the event in our ignorance!

The faction rally public event is the only thing I've seen that seems to go faster with more people on the capture point, and I'm still not 100% sure on that one.

You're not crazy, it definitely does. That was one that I was thinking of at the time. The glimmer pile capture in the Fallen-public-event-that-isn't-walkers does, too. I've actually seen that one fail because people weren't in it enough and it didn't get to 100% before time ran out. I'm fairly sure the Cabal drill thing (before Heroic is triggered) does as well, although I haven't tested that one thoroughly.

The Vex one is special, I think, because it's a little counterintuitive that putting more people in doesn't speed up the plates, when that does work for SOME things in Destiny (though not all - I don't PvP, but I heard something about capture points in there). And also because doing the heroic trigger without neglecting the basic objective requires some halfway intelligent positioning.

Does that work for anything in D2? The capture points in Crucible don't go faster for sure, because I remember that being a talking point at release (unless it's been changed in a balance patch or something). I don't think it works for that Vex event, and you seem to be saying it doesn't, but I actually don't know for sure because I just don't pay that much attention. I don't think it matters during the Pyramidion strike in the boss phase, but those go so fast anyway it's hard to tell.

The faction rally public event is the only thing I've seen that seems to go faster with more people on the capture point, and I'm still not 100% sure on that one.

-Disciple

The Vex one is special, I think, because it's a little counterintuitive that putting more people in doesn't speed up the plates, when that does work for SOME things in Destiny (though not all - I don't PvP, but I heard something about capture points in there). And also because doing the heroic trigger without neglecting the basic objective requires some halfway intelligent positioning.

Does that work for anything in D2? The capture points in Crucible don't go faster for sure, because I remember that being a talking point at release (unless it's been changed in a balance patch or something). I don't think it works for that Vex event, and you seem to be saying it doesn't, but I actually don't know for sure because I just don't pay that much attention. I don't think it matters during the Pyramidion strike in the boss phase, but those go so fast anyway it's hard to tell.

It's been a few weeks since I've actually done it, but the last time I played folks still seemed to not know how to start he heroic for the event on Mercury. It was probably under 50%. That's another hard one to know, unless someone tells you or you directly witness the trigger. The things you shoot aren't exactly obvious, since most players aren't looking out that way and just turn to run back towards the mancannon once the Hydra is dead.

Every so often I run into folks (sometimes even all level 25 Blueberries) who cannot seem to grasp the concept of Heroic Public Events. Admittedly, most of them I can trigger solo (the ability to crouch at the shield on the Injection rig with my gun through the shield but my body outside it so I take no damage is a life saver [literally]) sometimes they try to do everything in their power to not let that happen. Like when they get out the Scorch Cannons and just demolish the first walker before I can even get the 5th core deposited. ugh.

Thankfully most people are pretty good about Public Events now. But rarely do I get full groups who seem to all do the right things independently.

In general I have noticed things getting better. The Fallen walkers are almost always good - you do get people trying to kill them occasionally, but the huge majority of players know what's up. There's usually not enough noobs to actually kill the thing.

The Cabal drill thing (I forget the name) also goes well. Most players are shooting the ship before it even gets into position.

Even the Hive thing on Titan seems to go smoothly. It's been months since I did one of those and there wasn't at least one other person shooting the crystals.

The Vex one is special, I think, because it's a little counterintuitive that putting more people in doesn't speed up the plates, when that does work for SOME things in Destiny (though not all - I don't PvP, but I heard something about capture points in there). And also because doing the heroic trigger without neglecting the basic objective requires some halfway intelligent positioning.

That one is actually pretty difficult to figure out what's going on, I think. If you're shooting the blights, you can't really see outside of their bubbles, so it's hard to notice if someone else is in another blight ducking in and out of it for the buff. Even the status is sort of easy to overlook. It's brief and only happens if you leave a blight.

Yep. And on top of that, if you DO notice someone shooting the big blight and try it yourself, most likely you just get "immune." You'd have no way of knowing that there's a way to damage it, and you'd conclude that the person shooting it doesn't know what they're doing. That's what I did the first few times.