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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved that gun. Especially the way it looked in M2 and Infinity.</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2013 04:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Kermit</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm still waiting for a better gun than the MA-75B. This is the future dammit. Fix that manufacturing defect, and you've got a wicked powerful gun there!</p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2013 04:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>Step aside, Bluerunner. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>That's pretty neat.  Haven't seen those.  </p>
</blockquote><p>I hear they're fun to shoot.</p>
<blockquote><p>The problem I have with that Calico is that it puts the sights way up above the barrel.   That's going to screw with aiming at short distances.  You're going to have to do a fairly good holdover to be accurate. </p>
</blockquote><p>With one hundred rounds, who needs accuracy?</p>
<p>Joking aside, you've got a point, and it's probably made worse by the fact that the rear sight is mounted on the magazine. </p>
<blockquote><p>I think I'd rather just go with a drum that drops below the gun.</p>
</blockquote><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PP-19_Bizon">Why not an underslung helical magazine?</a></p>
<p>Oh, and I just found <a href="http://warsonline.info/strelkovoe-oruzhie/sovetskoe-bezgilzovogo-oruzhie-opitniy-pistolet-gerasimenko-vag-72-73.html">this baby</a>. You want a futuristic handgun, how about a selective fire pistol that fires caseless ammo from a 42 round box magazine? It's one of three guns I know of that accepts a tandem magazine!</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 15 Sep 2013 22:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Quirel</dc:creator>
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<title>Yet another gun. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Scarab linked to this tri-barreled revolver, which got me thinking.</p>
<p><img src="http://uploads.neatorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/revolver-500x488.jpg" alt="[image]" /></p>
<p>Back in the 1960's, America's Project SALVO focused on burst-fire with small projectiles or fletchettes. The light recoil and high rate of fire desired by the project would result in much higher hit probabilities than... Ok, sod it, elements in the US Army wanted burst fire and pattern fire rifles, and many of the prototypes submitted by multiple companies had three barrels.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/patents?id=c1J8AAAAEBAJ&amp;pg=PA2&amp;source=gbs_selected_pages&amp;cad=4#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false">Forty years later, over in Deutschland...</a></p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 15 Sep 2013 22:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Quirel</dc:creator>
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<title>Step aside, Bluerunner. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>So, to answer your question, the first picture I posted of the Calico M950 has a 100rd magazine. The picture below shows two hundred-round magazines and a 50 round loaded. </p>
</blockquote><p>That's pretty neat.  Haven't seen those.  I have seen the revolver before.   There's no good way to carry something like that though.   </p>
<p>I've seen 100 round drums for .22's (I think GSG makes one).  The biggest I have is a 50 round, and it jammed like crazy.   The problem I have with that Calico is that it puts the sights way up above the barrel.   That's going to screw with aiming at short distances.  You're going to have to do a fairly good holdover to be accurate.  I think I'd rather just go with a drum that drops below the gun.</p>
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<pubDate>Sun, 15 Sep 2013 19:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Good eye.</p>
<p>I guess the hammer is in an ergonomically correct position for manually cycling the cylinder. As for how it works, I'll have to see how it shoots in-game before I form any solid opinions. But peizoelectric firing? That's genius.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 14 Sep 2013 20:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Quirel</dc:creator>
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<title>Evolution of the Duke (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the hammer striking? Given that the barrel is aligned with the bottom cylinder?</p>
<p>Maybe it hits a piezoelectric crystal and the bullets are electrically detonated. Saves on batteries.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 14 Sep 2013 09:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>scarab</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That particular revolver where the revolving bit sits in front of the trigger has the barrel aligned with the top cylinder.</p>
<p>It's their other revolvers where the revolving bit is above the trigger that has the barrel aligned with the bottom cylinder (which seems a sensible arrangement if you can get it to work).</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 14 Sep 2013 09:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Is this for real? (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>What about a belt of bullets wrapped in a spiral? I wonder how many bullets could be crammed in that way?</p>
</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><p>A belt fed pistol?  It would be cumbersome and heavy.  The only thing I can think of off the top of my head is these guys.  You could do an AR-15 pistol style conversion with this.  <a href="http://www.lakesideguns.com">http://www.lakesideguns.com</a></p>
</blockquote><p>I was thinking of packing the bullets into the revolving thingy - like wot Quirel showed (only somewhat less extravagant!)</p>
<p>And those Lakeside people are as mad as a bag of weasels.</p>
<blockquote><p>Guess what I'll have stuck in my head for the rest of the day.</p>
</blockquote><p>My work is done...</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 14 Sep 2013 09:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>scarab</dc:creator>
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<title>There is even a scoped version (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who says that the M6D is unrealistic? ;-)</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 14 Sep 2013 09:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>scarab</dc:creator>
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<title>Mind if I try to one-up you? (reply)</title>
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</blockquote></blockquote><p>Seems like it would be weird to fire that, but kinda fun also.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 14 Sep 2013 03:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Grizzlei</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Swinging this back on target, if Bungie had called me up and said &quot;Hey Blue, give us an obscure revolver for inspiration&quot; I would have given them <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mateba">this.</a> </p>
</blockquote><p>If we want REALLY obscure, we can go with the <em>ugliest</em> revolver ever put to mass production: The Dardick Tround Revolver, the only magazine-fed revolver that I know of.*</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2010/07/08/the-dardick-revolver/">Yesh, I said &quot;Magazine fed.&quot;</a></p>
<p>How about really, REALLY obscure? As in, &quot;<a href="http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4102241.pdf">if you want to get an idea of how they worked, better go hunt down the patent</a>&quot; obscure? Because I'm talking about a 3-round burst, 4,900RPM assault rifle prototyped by General Electric. I can't find any images of it that I trust, so I'm just going to shrug and say that it probably was only ever a proof-of-concept.</p>
<p>*And, of course, a quick Google search shows other mag-fed revolvers out there. <a href="http://www.forgottenweapons.com/landstad-1900-automatic-revolver/">On one of my favorite sites, even.</a></p>
<blockquote><p>The Mateba Autorevolver.   It's a recoil operated revolver.   The barrel is aligned with the lower cylinder, which helps reduce muzzle flip.   It's just the kind of creativity I like to see in my distopian future videogames.  <br />
<iframe style="border:none;" width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/H5ZbjTdHwOA"></iframe></p>
</blockquote><p>Oddly enough, this is the first time I've seen that model of Mateba.</p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 14 Sep 2013 03:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Quirel</dc:creator>
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<title>Step aside, Bluerunner. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.neatorama.com/2012/05/07/three-barreled-revolver/#!jcN2v">http://www.neatorama.com/2012/05/07/three-barreled-revolver/#!jcN2v</a></p>
</blockquote><p>Heh. I've seen several like that. Sadly, it's not enough dakka.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Revolver-Gun-handgun-Multiple-Cylinder.jpg">This</a> is closer.</p>
<blockquote><p>What about a belt of bullets wrapped in a spiral? I wonder how many bullets could be crammed in that way?</p>
</blockquote><p>*grins*<br />
Oh, yes. Watch as I reach back through time and space and several internet connections to bring you...</p>
<p><strong>The Calico M950</strong><br />
<img src="http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/3984220316/9873681/d3471f1515fa691f65867542c09cf52f.jpg" alt="[image]" /></p>
<p>Yup. That odd plastic protuberance on the top? That's a helical magazine loaded with .22LR or 9mm parabellum, depending on the model.</p>
<p><img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QoRH81nF4Dw/TVuDi34_cxI/AAAAAAAAKBI/U48WY29JT3Q/s400/calico-cut.jpg" alt="[image]" /></p>
<p>So, to answer your question, the first picture I posted of the Calico M950 has a 100rd magazine. The picture below shows two hundred-round magazines and a 50 round loaded. </p>
<p><img src="http://031d26d.namesecurehost.com/gunfax/calico/libertyIIIwithmags.jpg" alt="[image]" /></p>
<p>The same company also sells carbines, and are even working on a shotgun!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dwsuk.co.uk/New_site/Other/calico.htm">More information.</a></p>
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<pubDate>Sat, 14 Sep 2013 02:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Quirel</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What was it like, Kerm?</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 13 Sep 2013 18:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>SonofMacPhisto</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I fell in love with the Mateba so many years ago while watching <em>Ghost in the Shell</em>. I'm sure there's plenty of likeminded fans at Bungie who probably remembered Togusa's weapon of choice. :)</p>
</blockquote><p>That pistol helped make the character for me.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 13 Sep 2013 18:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>SonofMacPhisto</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.neatorama.com/2012/05/07/three-barreled-revolver/#!jcN2v">http://www.neatorama.com/2012/05/07/three-barreled-revolver/#!jcN2v</a></p>
</blockquote><p>I'vs seen that year's ago.  I think it was just a one-off novelty.  This one would be fun to duel wield: <a href="http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/news/2013/3/video-big-gun-watch-world%E2%80%99s-largest-revolver-being-fired-47304/">http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/news/2013/3/video-big-gun-watch-world%E2%80%99s-largest-revolver-being-fired-47304/</a></p>
<blockquote><p>What about a belt of bullets wrapped in a spiral? I wonder how many bullets could be crammed in that way?</p>
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A belt fed pistol?  It would be cumbersome and heavy.  The only thing I can think of off the top of my head is these guys.  You could do an AR-15 pistol style conversion with this.  <a href="http://www.lakesideguns.com">http://www.lakesideguns.com</a></p>
<blockquote><p><br />
PS <a href="http://www.neatorama.com/2013/09/07/The-Beatles-Hey-Jude-as-a-Flowchart/#!jcOUr">Hey Jude in a flow chart</a>.</p>
</blockquote><p>Guess what I'll have stuck in my head for the rest of the day.</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>bluerunner</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.neatorama.com/2012/05/07/three-barreled-revolver/#!jcN2v">http://www.neatorama.com/2012/05/07/three-barreled-revolver/#!jcN2v</a></p>
<p>What about a belt of bullets wrapped in a spiral? I wonder how many bullets could be crammed in that way?</p>
<p>PS <a href="http://www.neatorama.com/2013/09/07/The-Beatles-Hey-Jude-as-a-Flowchart/#!jcOUr">Hey Jude in a flow chart</a>.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 13 Sep 2013 17:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>scarab</dc:creator>
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<title>Throwing darts in lovers&#039; eyes (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>darts don't get much love in first person shooters.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 13 Sep 2013 17:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>scarab</dc:creator>
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<title>Reminded me of the M1 pistol as well (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><img src="http://marathon.bungie.org/story/_images/Marathon_Classic_HUD_screen1.jpg" alt="[image]" /></p>
</blockquote><p>Especially this image, for some reason. Maybe it's the color palette, because the structure really isn't all that similar.<br />
<img src="http://static01.bungie.net/pubassets/3456/duke_concept.jpg" alt="[image]" /></p>
<p>I kind of hope this white version has some life left in it somewhere in the design stage, though. Looks badass.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 13 Sep 2013 16:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Beorn</dc:creator>
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<title>Evolution of the Duke (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No mention of the Thin White Duke?</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>marmot 1333</dc:creator>
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