One of my favourites for PvE, but no bueno for Crucible.

I just picked it up from the Gunsmith last night, dumped some Motes and a 335 craproll-GOM into it and took it straight into Iron Banner. 5 Wins in 7 games. Had fun. :D

Clarify: I'm not attributing all 5 wins to my use of Judith-D, I'm just saying it CAN work. Lots of teamshooting, picking up assists. I'm the first to admit my 1v1 skills generally suck, but Judith is great for putting the hurt on an opponent quickly and I don't care if my teammate finishes them off. My K/D last night ranged from 0.62 to 1.6, but my KA/D was mostly over 2.

Judith requires you to aim, carefully, but it rewards you appropriately.

I've been using it and my Suros DIS -45 in IB and haven't noticed anything too severe, unlike my Spare Change which has been outshot by Hawksaw at range numerous times.

This is the gunsmith's vendor roll 3. I would swap the reload perk for any of the others, and would trade crowd control for rangefinder, but it isn't necessary. I'm not even using reload gloves.

The changes to hand cannons don't make them top tier, but they can definitely compete. The main issue is the short range. My experience has been that you need the HCs with range 30-40 to "feel right". This is pretty much the mid ROF/Impact group and has the Imago Loop, Eyasluna, Lord High Fixer, Finnala's Peril, etc. Judith D is the exception, being high impact and high range. Uffern is similar.

These, coupled with rifled barrel, have enough range to equal ARs and the lower range PRs. As long as you don't try to cross map with HCs, and pick the short to medium range fights, you should be ok.

If you can consistently get the first shot with an HC, you should win every time. You can also clean up when team shooting very easily, since you have such high impact enemy players don't realize they can be one shot and will expose themselves for the challenge.

I really prefer to hit harder with a bit more range, so when someone mentioned here last week that the Gunsmith would be selling Judith-D, I ordered 2. I just picked up one of them tonight, and it's a BLAST. Fires super slow, but hits like a freight train, and with Reinforced Barrel it has wicked range too:

Sure, Stability is in the toilet, but it fires so slow aiming really isn't a problem.

Auto rifles of course, have been shit since about week 5.

Wait, what?

Well, just one… the Eyasluna!

Some call it the mini Hawkmoon. It's more like the old Devil You Know.

I missed that boat. That gun was basically gone by the time I started playing. ): I still miss Fatebringer, though.

How did the Ace of Spades turn out? I only ever leveled up the Gunsmith on my Warlock, so Tlaloc is the only one of those I have. I know everyone was excited for the Ace of Caydes, but I haven't ever heard much about it, so I assume it's not all that special or good.

Cody, that gun has been infuriating players for months. Hand cannons have never left. And it is the [s]mini[/s]-Hawkmoon--reading that description, and getting two shotted by that thing whenever I vomit my way through Crucible, yeah. It absolutely is! I'm glad you got it, though. If I did, I'd instantly dismantle it out of spite.

I don't think mine can two shot. It doesn't have luck in the chamber. Hawkmoon can't even two shot half the time anymore.