Which would still invalidate your argument... Picking up Machine Gun Heavy with no MG boots would still net you more kills than picking up Rocket Heavy with no Rocket boots.

Not having them should still net you the advantage of the gun. You shouldn't have to have special gear just to make a gun type viable.

That's funny. I picked up Heavy while playing with Cruel just to see if you were right, and somehow, Cody Miller was wrong again (No way!):

And I run Smallbore, which nets me less ammo (usually 41 rounds).

You must have machine gun boots.

Which would still invalidate your argument... Picking up Machine Gun Heavy with no MG boots would still net you more kills than picking up Rocket Heavy with no Rocket boots.

Or is your narrative "Picking up Rockets with Rocket Boots and Field Scout can get you more kills than picking up Machine Gun Heavy with Smallbore and no MG Boots! What's the point of Machine Guns?"

That's funny. I picked up Heavy while playing with Cruel just to see if you were right, and somehow, Cody Miller was wrong again (No way!):

And I run Smallbore, which nets me less ammo (usually 41 rounds).

You must have machine gun boots.

Your bad tactics don't justify this topic's existence... :p Fun video though.

On the flip-side, I'm twice as even more aggressiver than Cruel, have a higher K/D, never go for Heavy (takes time away from the killin'), and I use Machine Guns over Rockets any day in Crucible.

Maybe Cody just has terrible aim, and needs more than four rounds of a Machine gun to get kills, but I have never had trouble getting 5+ kills with Heavy. I run Qullim's on PS4, and Zombie Apocalypse on Xbox.

I got 20 rounds while picking up heavy ammo. That's only 5 kills for your perfect aim. This was with the raid machine gun. Before I was able to get 12+, and one time managed 15 kills.

That's funny. I picked up Heavy while playing with Cruel just to see if you were right, and somehow, Cody Miller was wrong again (No way!):

And I run Smallbore, which nets me less ammo (usually 41 rounds).

If you have heavy ammo boosts for MG's you can still go that far with Thunderlord. It's still my crucible heavy of choice. Terminus if I for whatever reason decide I need a different exotic. Field scout + ammo boost puts it at about 55-60 or so.

I think the most I've ever gotten out of using rockets was 5 kills. And that was only because the other team waited long enough for me to shoot two Truth rockets at their heavy box.

Hm. I was under the impression that +ammo no longer let you get more than a certain number of rounds, like 32 for HMGs and 3 for rockets.

With Heavy Ammo boots, Quillim's gets 41 rounds. I'm not good enough for Korny's laser-accurate 4-rounds-per-kill, but 7 is pretty easy. If a teammate does a little damage to at least one of your targets, 6 kills/round is not unusual.

I may have to dust off the ol' Terminus. Such a good gun! Thanks, I was obviously misinformed.

If you have heavy ammo boosts for MG's you can still go that far with Thunderlord. It's still my crucible heavy of choice. Terminus if I for whatever reason decide I need a different exotic. Field scout + ammo boost puts it at about 55-60 or so.

I think the most I've ever gotten out of using rockets was 5 kills. And that was only because the other team waited long enough for me to shoot two Truth rockets at their heavy box.

Hm. I was under the impression that +ammo no longer let you get more than a certain number of rounds, like 32 for HMGs and 3 for rockets.

With Heavy Ammo boots, Quillim's gets 41 rounds. I'm not good enough for Korny's laser-accurate 4-rounds-per-kill, but 7 is pretty easy. If a teammate does a little damage to at least one of your targets, 6 kills/round is not unusual.

A few reasons: In my experience, Heavy ammo spawn is such a giant clusterfuck that my chances of surviving long enough to get more than 2 or 3 kills are slim-to-none (I'm EXTREMELY aggressive in PvP, which leads to loads of kills and almost as many deaths). Plus I tend to spec my character out for best performance over the entire match, which means I emphasize special ammo perks over heavy ammo perks (since I will definitely use lots of special ammo while I might not even pick up heavy ammo once).

Finally, being a hyper-aggressive fool, I usually prefer to go mess with the enemy team during the heavy round, rather than try to pick it up myself ;)

Haha, awesome! It sounds like our play styles are very similar, though it hasn't been until recently that I've been trying to smash an entire group of enemies at the heavy spawn. Part of why I go with the HMG is because of how aggressively I play. I want them all dead, and I want them all dead as much as I possibly can do it. It just makes me even more dangerous when I close the gap, you know?

Your bad tactics don't justify this topic's existence... :p Fun video though.

On the flip-side, I'm twice as even more aggressiver than Cruel, have a higher K/D, never go for Heavy (takes time away from the killin'), and I use Machine Guns over Rockets any day in Crucible.

Maybe Cody just has terrible aim, and needs more than four rounds of a Machine gun to get kills, but I have never had trouble getting 5+ kills with Heavy. I run Qullim's on PS4, and Zombie Apocalypse on Xbox.

I got 20 rounds while picking up heavy ammo. That's only 5 kills for your perfect aim. This was with the raid machine gun. Before I was able to get 12+, and one time managed 15 kills.