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<title>Sidearms are beastly in PvP (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's just the vendor roll from the first time they were ever sold. Hot swap, zen moment, quick draw. I really like the accuracy and stability perks though, I also have the Conviction from New Monarchy with more range perks and I find I miss more with it.</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>WildthingVII</dc:creator>
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<title>Yes they are (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In the right range, they're awesome, as you have shown.</p>
<p>They also get 20 rounds in every respawn, even if you're out of ammo.  That's been nice for getting the special kills for the IB bounty.</p>
</blockquote><p>And since it's not been mentioned, they are perfect for those times when you get someone down to one shot and have to reload your primary. Switching to your sidearm is quicker than switching to any other special and you don't have to aim as carefully as a sniper or be in close range as a shotgun so finishing someone off is usually a quick shot.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What perks are on your iron wreath?</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2016 18:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Argent_17</dc:creator>
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<title>Yes, I should have died... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>...but that's a sidearm feature in my mind. It's happened enough that I really think people have a harder time shooting me back when I'm raining sidearm on them that anything else.</p>
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<title>Yes they are (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the right range, they're awesome, as you have shown.</p>
<p>They also get 20 rounds in every respawn, even if you're out of ammo.  That's been nice for getting the special kills for the IB bounty.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2016 02:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>That melee range is ridiculous. Gotta be 15-20 feet there. (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2016 02:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>BeardFade</dc:creator>
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<title>Also, that second guy can&#039;t hit jack (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2016 01:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>MacAddictXIV</dc:creator>
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<title>That was dirty (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2016 01:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Plenty of console games have no aim assist. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Tweak it, sure, but don't downright nullify it.</p>
</blockquote><p>Heck, Treyarch's Call of Duty games have Aim Assist, but give players the option to disable it altogether (and Sammy and I do).</p>
<p>Still, my issue is with Sniper Rifles having it. Want to keep it on Primaries? That's fine. Just disable it for Specials, or at least get rid of the magnetism.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2016 00:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Nah, we&#039;re still playing on console, we need aim assist (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tweak it, sure, but don't downright nullify it.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2016 00:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>ZackDark</dc:creator>
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<title>19 months in, I&#039;m still skeptical of Destiny&#039;s 3-gun system. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think snipers are fine, maybe a bit too nerfed, objectively. Dump the aim assist, get less zoom, add field scout back in, all that jazz. Just make fusion rifles good. I don't like nerfing this stuff, it ruins the normal game.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2016 00:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Funkmon</dc:creator>
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<title>:D (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2016 00:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Claude Errera</dc:creator>
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<title>I agree that Sniper Rifles still aren&#039;t adjusted correctly. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think there should be a distance shorter of which precision shots do regular body damage (say, optimal Fusion Rifle range) and stronger zoom scopes to reflect that.</p>
</blockquote><p>Negative-Friction Smart-matter rounds: The bullet's speed and lethality increase the farther it travels.</p>
<p>Ship it. Throw it into the Grimiore afterwards :P</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2016 23:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>CyberKN</dc:creator>
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<title>Don&#039;t make me disown you Claude (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2016 23:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>MacAddictXIV</dc:creator>
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<title>I agree that Sniper Rifles still aren&#039;t adjusted correctly. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>They still need to zoom in farther. I argue that the Custom Optics perk on a sniper should be the lowest zoom available. If you use Patience &amp; Time's Custom Optics, you are still MUCH further zoomed in than Ambush or Shortgaze (there might me others, but these two I know for sure).</p>
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I'm perfectly okay with people scoped in sniping down a lane. Hold down a lane of approach is what snipers are meant for. I'm not okay with <a href="index.php?id=110852" class="internal">this</a>. That should never happen with a sniper. I don't care how good a shot you are.</p>
</blockquote><p>Heh - I've done that out of panic a few times, and it's been awesome. :)</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2016 23:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Claude Errera</dc:creator>
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<title>Sidearms are beastly in PvP (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I've been using them more and more in PvP, coupled with a long-range primary like Mida or NLB and I really love them. I originally tried it to mitigate the whole don't-spawn-with-special-ammo thing, but even now that that's no longer the case, it's still my go-to build. Couple them with the stupid long range Warlock melee and you own mid-close range.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2016 23:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>WildthingVII</dc:creator>
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<title>A deeply held belief of mine... (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>They still need to zoom in farther. I argue that the Custom Optics perk on a sniper should be the lowest zoom available. If you use Patience &amp; Time's Custom Optics, you are still MUCH further zoomed in than Ambush or Shortgaze (there might me others, but these two I know for sure).</p>
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I'm perfectly okay with people scoped in sniping down a lane. Hold down a lane of approach is what snipers are meant for. I'm not okay with <a href="index.php?id=110852" class="internal">this</a>. That should never happen with a sniper. I don't care how good a shot you are.</p>
</blockquote><p>No sniper rifle should have any form of aim-assist on it. 1000 Yard Stare is a borderline-broken weapon because of its ridiculous magnetism and aim assist, and it's on the list of weapons that I don't use out of principle.</p>
<p>Should you be able to snipe somebody a second after seeing them? Sure, if your aim and reflexes are true, and luck is on your side. Should you be able to hit the Aim button and pull the trigger for a nearly-guaranteed headshot just because the enemy is in front of you? Never. You shouldn't be able to just sit and zero in on a spot in front of you for a permanently head-level shot, either. This is why most games have a sway to the sniper scope.</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2016 23:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Korny</dc:creator>
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<title>I agree that Sniper Rifles still aren&#039;t adjusted correctly. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there should be a distance shorter of which precision shots do regular body damage (say, optimal Fusion Rifle range) and stronger zoom scopes to reflect that.</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>ZackDark</dc:creator>
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<title>I agree that Sniper Rifles still aren&#039;t adjusted correctly. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They still need to zoom in farther. I argue that the Custom Optics perk on a sniper should be the lowest zoom available. If you use Patience &amp; Time's Custom Optics, you are still MUCH further zoomed in than Ambush or Shortgaze (there might me others, but these two I know for sure).</p>
</blockquote><p>I'm perfectly okay with people scoped in sniping down a lane. Hold down a lane of approach is what snipers are meant for. I'm not okay with <a href="index.php?id=110852" class="internal">this</a>. That should never happen with a sniper. I don't care how good a shot you are.</p>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>MacAddictXIV</dc:creator>
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<title>I agree that Sniper Rifles still aren&#039;t adjusted correctly. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They still need to zoom in farther. I argue that the Custom Optics perk on a sniper should be the lowest zoom available. If you use Patience &amp; Time's Custom Optics, you are still MUCH further zoomed in than Ambush or Shortgaze (there might me others, but these two I know for sure).</p>
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