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<title>We did send a thing to mars that mixed up measurments (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Centimeters vs. inches.  And then we spent millions of dollars launching it into space.  And it didn't work because of, essentially, a clerical oversight.</p>
<p>Anyway, I worked in test for 13 years.  These mistakes happen all the time.  Someone says &quot;4%&quot;, it gets written down as 0.04, someone else enters 0.04 into the database spreadsheet, the computer is programmed to read the number and turn it into a percentage, you end up with 0.04%.</p>
<p>This is why you need testers who are knowledgeable about coding and empowered to check the tools being used to make the game, and not just the game itself.  I do not know whether or not Bungie has either of those things.</p>
</blockquote><p>Also, I might add, we are all human and sometimes we f$%&amp; up.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2015 04:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>MacAddictXIV</dc:creator>
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<title>We did send a thing to mars that mixed up measurments (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Centimeters vs. inches.  And then we spent millions of dollars launching it into space.  And it didn't work because of, essentially, a clerical oversight.</p>
<p>Anyway, I worked in test for 13 years.  These mistakes happen all the time.  Someone says &quot;4%&quot;, it gets written down as 0.04, someone else enters 0.04 into the database spreadsheet, the computer is programmed to read the number and turn it into a percentage, you end up with 0.04%.</p>
<p>This is why you need testers who are knowledgeable about coding and empowered to check the tools being used to make the game, and not just the game itself.  I do not know whether or not Bungie has either of those things.</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2015 04:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Kahzgul</dc:creator>
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<title>someone was fired for this mistake (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here's the Job Post for the replacement  ;-)<br />
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2015 02:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>peaksutah</dc:creator>
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<title>Massive Conspiracy! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the auto rifle changes were listed right but the pulse rifle changes were listed wrong?</p>
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<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2015 00:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Ragashingo</dc:creator>
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<title>I woncer if the article is hotlinked to the database (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They still haven't fixed the typos:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.bungie.net/en/News/News?aid=14016">https://www.bungie.net/en/News/News?aid=14016</a></p>
<p>In context, the values listed there make the most sense.</p>
<blockquote><p>Based on that data, Autos are coming up a tiny bit to help them fulfill their intended role.</p>
</blockquote><p>Because coming up effectively zero percent sure helps them fill that role.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2015 23:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>We don&#039;t know where the error occurred. (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2015 23:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Funkmon</dc:creator>
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<title>Seems like someone typo&#039;d when entering data (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>While I find this story implausible, as they had been citing numbers for weeks and someone should have caught it, I also remember it taking <em>months</em> before someone corrected Frankie on what BSP meant.</p>
<p>I think he called it Binary Separation Plane in like 12 straight Halo 2 updates.</p>
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Glad you mentioned this.  I STILL think of Frankie whenever I hear people talking about BSPs!</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2015 23:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Monochron</dc:creator>
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<title>I woncer if the article is hotlinked to the database (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2015 23:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>ZackDark</dc:creator>
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<title>Massive Conspiracy! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><blockquote><p>On one hand, it seems weird, </p>
<p>On the other there's not really any reason for them to lie about it.  It's not like they ahve some record of &quot;NEVER BUGS IN DESTINY UPDATES&quot; they need to protect or something.  </p>
<p>The update tomorrow is supposed to have explanations for it.</p>
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<a href="https://twitter.com/UrkMcGurk/status/674837001036632064">Relevant Urk (again)</a>: <em>&quot;.@JordanScharff We're people and we can make mistakes. It's never gonna be perfect, but there's no spin or ill intent here.&quot;</em></p>
<p><span style="font-size:smaller;">I'm going to just speak in Urk Tweets from now on...:P</span></p>
</blockquote><p>So they intended to buff auto rifles essentially zero percent? The update talked about making them part of the meta again. If you think it was a decimal error, then all along they really meant &quot;to bring auto rifles back into the current meta we're going to buff them by zero percent effectively&quot;. </p>
<p>They are not being straight.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2015 22:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Cody Miller</dc:creator>
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<title>Seems like someone typo&#039;d when entering data (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>While I find this story implausible, as they had been citing numbers for weeks and someone should have caught it, I also remember it taking <em>months</em> before someone corrected Frankie on what BSP meant.</p>
<p>I think he called it Binary Separation Plane in like 12 straight Halo 2 updates.</p>
</blockquote><p>I thought it stood for Blackstar Productions?</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2015 21:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>stabbim</dc:creator>
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<title>Massive Conspiracy! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right. I'm sure they just updated the patch notes because people are still going to be finding their way to that page via searches and such. Better to update the original notes so when people find that page they get the correct info. Otherwise, people might see the old (wrong) numbers, not knowing there's a different set of corrected numbers out there somewhere.</p>
<p>If it was me, I'd probably put a note in there explaining that the article had been changed from its original form, though.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2015 21:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>It&#039;s a mystery. We&#039;ll know more soon, I guess. (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2015 20:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Funkmon</dc:creator>
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<title>Seems like someone typo&#039;d when entering data (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if this was a percentage vs. percentage points thing.  It can be easy to miss the '.' after the % in an email, especially if you are unfamiliar with the notation or concept.  I actually thought it was unclear what they meant by percent decrease in the update, since they didn't clarify the base value.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>squidnh3</dc:creator>
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<title>Seems like someone typo&#039;d when entering data (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I find this story implausible, as they had been citing numbers for weeks and someone should have caught it, I also remember it taking <em>months</em> before someone corrected Frankie on what BSP meant.</p>
<p>I think he called it Binary Separation Plane in like 12 straight Halo 2 updates.</p>
<p>It's certainly possible that this isn't indicative of anything internal. It's kind of a trend going back over 10 years to make consistent mistakes such as this. This one's a little different as it's in patch notes, but I don't think we should assume anything.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2015 19:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Funkmon</dc:creator>
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<title>Standard. (reply)</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2015 17:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>ProbablyLast</dc:creator>
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<title>Seems like someone typo&#039;d when entering data (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, their QA team should have caught this immediately.  Bungie, hire me for a week, fly me up to Washington, and I'll come fix your workflow and QA checklists.  Your organization and/or team structure is failing you left and right.  It's really disappointing.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2015 15:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Kahzgul</dc:creator>
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<title>Massive Conspiracy! (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>On one hand, it seems weird, </p>
<p>On the other there's not really any reason for them to lie about it.  It's not like they ahve some record of &quot;NEVER BUGS IN DESTINY UPDATES&quot; they need to protect or something.  </p>
<p>The update tomorrow is supposed to have explanations for it.</p>
</blockquote><p><a href="https://twitter.com/UrkMcGurk/status/674837001036632064">Relevant Urk (again)</a>: <em>&quot;.@JordanScharff We're people and we can make mistakes. It's never gonna be perfect, but there's no spin or ill intent here.&quot;</em></p>
<p><span style="font-size:smaller;">I'm going to just speak in Urk Tweets from now on...:P</span></p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Leviathan</dc:creator>
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<title>Wow. Patch notes retcon. (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I wish they'd just say it was a mistake. </p>
<p>.04% change is virtually nothing. There's no way that would have any effect practically.</p>
<p>A 4% increase would multiply the damage by 1.04<br />
A .4% increase would multiply the damage by 1.004<br />
A .04% increase would multiple damage by 1.0004 which is basically a rounding error.</p>
<p>It's near impossible this was the intended value and the patch is working as planned.</p>
</blockquote><p>On one hand, it seems weird, </p>
<p>On the other there's not really any reason for them to lie about it.  It's not like they ahve some record of &quot;NEVER BUGS IN DESTINY UPDATES&quot; they need to protect or something.  </p>
<p>The update tomorrow is supposed to have explanations for it.</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>electricpirate</dc:creator>
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<title>Auto rifle balance patch only 1/10 effective as expected (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://twitter.com/UrkMcGurk/status/674815235186798592">Urk</a>: &quot;A dubious, incorrect value was found in our patch notes. We're gathering details to clarify. No illuminati involved, as far as I can tell.&quot;</p>
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<title>Either way, it&#039;s hilarious. (reply)</title>
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<category>Destiny</category><dc:creator>Funkmon</dc:creator>
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